Tampa City Council - meeting transcription detail (2024)

TAMPA CITY COUNCIL

THURSDAY, JANUARY 16, 2020

6:00 P.M.

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18:02:27 [ ROLL CALL ]

18:02:29 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

18:02:29 LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE.

18:02:35 >> GOOD EVENING.

18:02:36 >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE BEGIN, IF I MAY, IS THERE ANY

18:02:38 HOUSEKEEPING IN TERMS OF ANY ITEMS --

18:02:41 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

18:02:42 RYAN MANASSE, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

18:02:45 COORDINATION.

18:02:46 ITEM 3, REZONING 19-102, MISNOTICE AND CANNOT BE HEARD

18:02:51 TONIGHT, AS WELL AS ITEM NUMBER 9, REZONING 19-106.

18:02:55 AND THEN ITEMS NUMBER 10 AND 14 ARE REQUESTING A

18:02:59 CONTINUANCE.

18:03:01 SO WE'LL HEAR THEM SEPARATELY.

18:03:03 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD.

18:03:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A MOTION TO REMOVE THOSE TWO ITEMS

18:03:08 FROM THE AGENDA.

18:03:08 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

18:03:09 MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR 3 AND 9?

18:03:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.

18:03:12 ITEM 3, MR. CHAIRMAN, ITEM NUMBER 9, LET ME BE MORE

18:03:14 SPECIFIC.

18:03:15 3 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 19-102.

18:03:18 9 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 19-106.

18:03:21 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

18:03:22 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:03:24 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:03:25 ALL IN FAVOR?

18:03:25 ANY OPPOSED?

18:03:26 OKAY.

18:03:27 AND THEN FOR NUMBERS -- NUMBER 10 A MOTION TO CONTINUE

18:03:42 AND TO WHAT DATE?

18:03:48 >> TAMMY CORBETT, FOR THE RECORD, 101 EAST KENNEDY

18:03:51 BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700, TAMPA, FLORIDA, WITH THE HILL WARD

18:03:54 HENDERSON LAW FIRM, HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT

18:03:57 JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL.

18:03:59 WE ARE COMING FORWARD WITH A RELATIVELY SMALL AMENDMENT

18:04:01 TO THE PD THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2014 AND THEN AMENDED

18:04:05 AGAIN IN 2015.

18:04:06 BUT WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING LAST THURSDAY, AND IT

18:04:09 WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED, AND THERE WERE LOTS OF QUESTIONS

18:04:12 AND SOME CONCERNS, AND THEN ALSO SOME SOLUTIONS PROPOSED

18:04:15 BY THE RESIDENTS, AND WE WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE

18:04:17 TO WORK, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.

18:04:20 AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO

18:04:22 MAKE CHANGES AND WORK WITH THEM, SO WE ARE REQUESTING A

18:04:25 CONTINUANCE TO THE MARCH, I BELIEVE IT IS, 12th, 2020

18:04:29 CITY COUNCIL HEARING FOR THIS PETITION.

18:04:30 >>LUIS VIERA: JESUIT, IS THAT A NEW CHARTER SCHOOL?

18:04:32 >> YES.

18:04:32 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

18:04:33 ANY COMMENTS ON THE CONTINUANCE?

18:04:37 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE

18:04:41 ONLY ON ITEM NUMBER 10?

18:04:45 MAY I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE?

18:04:49 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HEARINGS HAVE NOT BEEN OPENED.

18:04:53 WE CAN TAKE THESE OUT.

18:04:54 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO IT OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE.

18:04:57 WHO WANTS TO DO THE MOTION TO OPEN?

18:04:59 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

18:05:01 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:05:03 ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?

18:05:03 WE ARE OPEN.

18:05:04 AGAIN, IF ANYONE IS HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM

18:05:07 NUMBER 10, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

18:05:08 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN THAT ORDER, I SHOULD REPEAT MY

18:05:11 MOTION, IF YOU WANT TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY, BECAUSE I

18:05:13 READ THEM WITHOUT THE MOTION BEING OPEN, SO I WANT TO

18:05:13 CLEAR THE RECORD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE DONE

18:05:13 EVERYTHING LEGALLY.

18:05:13 ITEM NUMBER 3, REMOVE FILE NUMBER REZ 19-102.

18:05:24 AND ITEM NUMBER 9 IS FILE NUMBER REZ 19-106.

18:05:28 >> SECOND.

18:05:29 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND BY

18:05:31 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

18:05:32 ALL IN FAVOR?

18:05:33 ANY OPPOSED?

18:05:34 FOR ITEM NUMBER 10, WHO WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT MOTION TO

18:05:37 CONTINUE?

18:05:46 >> 3-12-2020.

18:05:48 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

18:05:49 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

18:05:51 ALL IN FAVOR?

18:05:52 ANY OPPOSED?

18:05:52 14.

18:05:55 >> TAMMY CORBETT, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700.

18:05:59 I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER APPLICANT, KR TRASK, LLC.

18:06:04 WE ACTUALLY REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE LAST MONTH.

18:06:08 THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THAT IS WE HAD BROUGHT ON

18:06:10 MR. RICKY PEDRICA TO ASSIST US WITH THE TREE ANALYSIS.

18:06:16 THERE WERE 13 GRAND TREES ON THE SITE, SO WE REALLY

18:06:18 WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE ANALYSIS RIGHT.

18:06:20 WE DID THAT WORK.

18:06:20 AS OF LAST WEEK, WE WERE PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD THIS

18:06:23 EVENING WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OF CONSISTENCY FROM YOUR

18:06:26 STAFF.

18:06:27 HOWEVER, WE DID RECEIVE AN E-MAIL FROM MS. STEPHANIE

18:06:30 POINTER, WHO IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING, WHO

18:06:32 YOU ALL KNOW IS A GREAT LEADER IN THE SOUTH OF GANDY

18:06:35 COMMUNITY, AND SHE DID REQUEST THAT WE CONTINUE OUR

18:06:39 HEARING.

18:06:40 SHE ASKED FOR A LONGER CONTINUANCE, MORE THAN 60-DAY

18:06:43 CONTINUANCE.

18:06:43 THE OWNER INITIALLY WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, FELT

18:06:46 THAT WE HAD BEEN RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT REALLY,

18:06:51 AFTER HE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND AFTER WE TALKED ABOUT IT

18:06:53 AND AFTER HE TALKED WITH MS. POINTER SOME MORE, WE

18:06:59 REALIZED THAT THE SOUTH OF GANDY MOVEMENT HAS REALLY

18:07:01 GOTTEN VERY ORGANIZED IN THE LAST 60 DAYS OR SO.

18:07:03 IT WAS ORGANIZED BEFORE, BUT IT'S REALLY UNDER MS.

18:07:04 POINTER'S LEADERSHIP TAKEN OFF AND A LOT MORE PEOPLE

18:07:10 INVOLVED THAN PREVIOUSLY AND CONTINUING UNTIL THE

18:07:13 FEBRUARY HEARING WOULD ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AT

18:07:15 LEAST ONE MORE COMMUNITY MEETING.

18:07:17 THAT COMMUNITY MEETING HAS ALREADY BEEN SCHEDULED FOR

18:07:20 JANUARY 22nd, NEXT WEDNESDAY EVENING FROM 5 TO 7 AT

18:07:24 HULA BAY, AT DUKES AT HULA BAY.

18:07:27 AND IT WILL BE AN OPEN HOUSE STYLE WORKSHOP FROM 5 TO 7.

18:07:30 YOU CAN COME AT 5, COME AT 6, COME AT 6:30.

18:07:33 THE APPLICANT WILL BE THERE AS WELL AS THE OWNER HIMSELF.

18:07:36 YOU CAN SEE OUR PLANS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE

18:07:40 OPPORTUNITY -- EVERYONE PROVIDING INPUT ON THAT.

18:07:43 SO, THEREFORE, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU FIND

18:07:46 THAT THERE'S GOOD CAUSE TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL THE

18:07:48 FEBRUARY 13, 2020, HEARING.

18:07:50 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:07:51 ANY QUESTIONS?

18:07:52 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE

18:07:56 ONLY ON ITEM NUMBER 14?

18:07:57 MS. POINTER, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

18:08:05 >> MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

18:08:09 COORDINATION.

18:08:09 BEFORE THE CITIZEN COMES UP TO SPEAK, I WILL REMIND CITY

18:08:12 COUNCIL THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN SWORN IN

18:08:15 YET.

18:08:16 YOU'RE VERY ASTUTE.

18:08:18 THANK YOU.

18:08:18 >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON SPEAKING HERE

18:08:20 TONIGHT, IF YOU COULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND STAND

18:08:23 UP, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO SO, AND PREPARE TO BE SWORN IN.

18:08:26 [OATH ADMINISTERED]

18:08:35 YOUR COMMENTS ARE TO BE NARROWLY TAILORED, IF YOU WOULD,

18:08:37 PLEASE, ON THE CONTINUANCE ONLY.

18:08:40 >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POINTER.

18:08:43 I AM A LICENSED REALTOR.

18:08:45 I DO SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE.

18:08:46 WE ASKED MR. KEATING, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, FOR A

18:08:50 CONTINUANCE UNTIL AFTER THE WORKSHOP FOR THE SOUTH OF

18:08:53 GANDY COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN SET BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR

18:08:57 MARCH THE 26th AT 9:30 A.M.

18:08:59 WE WILL TAKE WHAT WE CAN GET.

18:09:01 WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT MR. KEATING DECIDED TO WORK WITH US

18:09:04 ON THIS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT AFTER SO WE CAN SEE

18:09:07 IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOMETHING.

18:09:10 I HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I'M WORKING WITH

18:09:13 MR. KEATING AND HIS FOLKS TO MOVE FORWARD.

18:09:17 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:09:18 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

18:09:19 ANYONE ELSE?

18:09:20 ANYONE ELSE?

18:09:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHAIR, FILE NUMBER REZ 19-94, I MOVE

18:09:36 THAT THIS BE CONTINUED.

18:09:37 CAN WE DO THIS TILL MARCH 26th?

18:09:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, THAT WAS NOT THE REQUEST OF

18:09:44 THE PETITIONER.

18:09:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE REQUEST.

18:09:47 I'M ASKING.

18:09:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR

18:09:51 THE PETITIONER, THEN.

18:09:52 >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE CODE LIMITATIONS.

18:09:54 I THINK WHAT I'D RATHER DO IS ASK YOU TO GIVE US THE

18:09:58 CONTINUANCE UNTIL FEBRUARY 13th.

18:10:00 IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL OPEN ITEMS AT THAT TIME WE CAN

18:10:04 DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT THERE SHOULD BE ADDITIONAL

18:10:07 CONTINUANCES.

18:10:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AMEND MY MOTION, MR. CHAIR, REZ 19-94

18:10:10 TO FEBRUARY 13 AT 6 P.M. IN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

18:10:14 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

18:10:16 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:10:17 ALL IN FAVOR?

18:10:18 ANY OPPOSED?

18:10:19 OKAY.

18:10:20 THANK YOU.

18:10:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

18:10:25 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

18:10:26 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 1.

18:10:36 >> MARY SAMANIEGO, PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

18:10:38 COORDINATION.

18:10:38 ITEM NUMBER 1 ON YOUR AGENDA IS A SECOND READING.

18:10:38 IF YOU REMEMBER FROM YOUR DECEMBER TWENTY -- 12 HEARING,

18:10:41 THIS ITEM WAS APPROVED FOR FIRST READING.

18:10:43 BUT THE APPLICANT WAS DIRECTED TO CONTACT SOME OF THE

18:10:46 COMMUNITY LEADERS IN THE AREA OF EAST TAMPA.

18:10:51 SHE HAS DONE SO.

18:10:51 SHE WILL MAKE A SMALL PRESENTATION TO THAT EFFECT.

18:10:53 ALL REQUIRED CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE SITE PLAN, ARE

18:10:56 SUBMITTED AT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

18:10:58 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:11:03 >> PATRICIA ORTIZ, 2810 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE.

18:11:06 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

18:11:08 AS DIRECTED BY THIS BOARD, I'VE REACHED OUT TO MR. ED

18:11:12 JOHNSON OF THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

18:11:16 FRANKY JONES OF THE RAINBOW HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD

18:11:19 ORGANIZATION, AND DIANNE HART OF THE EAST TAMPA BUSINESS

18:11:22 AND CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

18:11:25 I HAVE SPOKEN WITH AND COMMUNICATED WITH MR. ED JOHNSON,

18:11:29 BOTH ON THE TELEPHONE AND BY E-MAIL.

18:11:32 HOWEVER, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN DIRECTLY OR CORRESPONDED

18:11:37 DIRECTLY WITH EITHER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS.

18:11:40 INSTEAD, IT APPEARS THAT MR. ED JOHNSON WORKED AS A SORT

18:11:43 OF A FACILITATOR BETWEEN MYSELF AND THESE NEIGHBORHOOD

18:11:47 LIAISONS.

18:11:48 I HAVE E-MAILS FROM HIM STATING THAT NEITHER OF THE

18:11:51 NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS OBJECTS TO THIS PROJECT.

18:11:55 I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THOSE INTO THE RECORD, IF YOU

18:11:58 LIKE.

18:11:58 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.

18:12:00 SURE, IF YOU WANT TO SUBMIT IT, YOU MAY.

18:12:03 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, COUNCIL?

18:12:05 OKAY.

18:12:06 ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOUR OPENING?

18:12:07 >> NO. WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

18:12:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:12:12 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 1?

18:12:14 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

18:12:17 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:12:19 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

18:12:21 ALL IN FAVOR?

18:12:21 ANY OPPOSED?

18:12:22 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CAN YOU READ NUMBER ONE, SIR?

18:12:28 >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NUMBER REZ 19-68.

18:12:34 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND

18:12:37 ADOPTION.

18:12:37 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

18:12:39 4702 AND 4704 NORTH 40th STREET AND 4608 NORTH MANLEY

18:12:46 STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY

18:12:48 DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

18:12:50 CLASSIFICATION CI (COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE) AND RS-50

18:12:55 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY) TO PD (PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,

18:12:58 LIGHT MANUFACTURING); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

18:13:00 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, A

18:13:01 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

18:13:03 ROLL CALL, OKAY.

18:13:06 >> DINGFELDER? GUDES?

18:13:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]

18:13:12 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AYE.

18:13:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AYE.

18:13:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AYE.

18:13:17 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

18:13:17 >>LUIS VIERA: YES.

18:13:24 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH DINGFELDER ABSENT AT

18:13:26 VOTE.

18:13:27 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:13:28 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 2.

18:13:31 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO FOR THE RECORD.

18:13:32 ITEM NUMBER 2 IS REZ 19-66.

18:13:35 THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT

18:13:38 110 AND 112 SOUTH WILLOW AVENUE FROM RM-24 TO PLANNED

18:13:46 DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH BONUS

18:13:49 PROVISION.

18:14:02 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

18:14:04 THIS IS DANNY COLLINS OF YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

18:14:09 I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.

18:14:09 OUR FIRST CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,

18:14:12 MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE HYDE PARK SPANISH CREEK

18:14:14 NEIGHBORHOOD.

18:14:14 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT WITH

18:14:17 THE TRANSIT STOP ON WEST KENNEDY.

18:14:18 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS SNOW PARK,

18:14:22 WHICH IS WITHIN A HALF MILE TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT

18:14:25 SITE.

18:14:25 THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN A LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.

18:14:28 THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE OF THE SURROUNDING

18:14:33 PROPERTIES.

18:14:34 THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN THE COLOR PURPLE.

18:14:37 SOUTH WILLOW RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH, ONE BLOCK TO THE NORTH

18:14:41 IS WEST KENNEDY.

18:14:43 THIS IS THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA CAMPUS, AND THEN THIS IS

18:14:46 THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.

18:14:50 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

18:14:59 THE SUBJECT SITE IS SHOWN HERE IN PURPLE.

18:15:03 IT'S IN THE RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY,

18:15:06 WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF UP TO 35

18:15:09 MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS.

18:15:11 THE SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY THAT RESIDENTIAL 35 ON

18:15:14 ALL SIDES.

18:15:16 THERE IS SOME CC 35 JUST TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

18:15:19 AND THEN JUST TO THE NORTH ALONG KENNEDY IS THE UMU-60.

18:15:24 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION

18:15:28 AND FOUND THE PROPOSED USE AND DENSITY CONSISTENT WITH

18:15:30 THE RESIDENTIAL 35 CATEGORY.

18:15:32 HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN LACKS INFORMATION, NEEDS

18:15:35 TO DETERMINE CONSISTENCY WITH THE PLAN'S EQUITY AND FAIR

18:15:39 HOUSING POLICY.

18:15:39 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW DEVELOPMENT TO BE

18:15:42 ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS AND SEEKS

18:15:45 TO EXPAND THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING THAT IS ACCESSIBLE FOR

18:15:47 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

18:15:48 SINCE THE PROPOSED APARTMENT BUILDING DOES NOT PROVIDE A

18:15:51 GROUND FLOOR UNIT AND AN ELEVATOR IS NOT SHOWN ON THE

18:15:54 SITE PLAN, IT IS UNCLEAR HOW RESIDENTS WITH PHYSICAL

18:15:57 LIMITATIONS WILL ACCESS UNITS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

18:15:59 ALSO, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT FURTHER THE INTENT

18:16:02 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH ENCOURAGES THE BUILDING

18:16:05 ENTRANCES TO BE ORIENTED WITH THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK.

18:16:07 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION

18:16:10 STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA

18:16:13 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

18:16:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:16:16 ANY QUESTIONS?

18:16:16 ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THERE'S NOT DISABILITY ACCESS FOR

18:16:21 FOLKS ON THE SECOND FLOOR?

18:16:25 >> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?

18:16:26 >>LUIS VIERA: THERE'S NOT DISABILITY ACCESS FOR FOLKS ON

18:16:30 THE SECOND FLOOR?

18:16:31 >> IT WAS UNCLEAR ON THE SITE PLAN HOW SOMEBODY WITH A

18:16:34 PHYSICAL LIMITATION COULD GET TO THE SECOND FLOOR SINCE

18:16:36 THERE WASN'T AN ELEVATOR OR A RAMP SHOWN ON THE SITE

18:16:39 PLAN.

18:16:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:16:41 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, LOOKING AT THIS REPORT

18:16:43 HERE, YOU SAID THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT

18:16:46 INCONSISTENT?

18:16:47 >> YES, SIR.

18:16:49 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M LOOKING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION

18:16:50 SHEET AND IT SAYS CONSISTENT.

18:16:56 >> REZONING 19-66.

18:16:59 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.

18:17:00 MAYBE I'M NOT LOOKING AT AN UPDATED PLAN.

18:17:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A REPORT PREPARED ON AUGUST --

18:17:38 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M MISSING THE UPDATED VERSION.

18:17:41 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

18:17:45 >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.

18:17:46 I GUESS I'M MISSING THE CURRENT PAGE IN THE BOOK.

18:17:49 MR. SHELBY GAVE ME A COPY.

18:17:50 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:18:07 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: MARY SAMANIEGO.

18:18:08 AGAIN, THIS IS REZ 19-66.

18:18:12 IT'S A REZONING FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR MULTIFAMILY

18:18:15 RESIDENTIAL.

18:18:16 THIS APPLICATION WAS HEARD AT YOUR SEPTEMBER 12 HEARING.

18:18:20 AT THAT HEARING, THEY TOOK COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC AND

18:18:23 THE CITY COUNCIL THEMSELVES, THE APPLICANT HAS REDESIGNED

18:18:27 THIS SITE.

18:18:27 THE DESIGN THAT'S BEFORE YOU AND WHAT THE STAFF REPORT

18:18:32 REFLECTS.

18:18:32 AGAIN, THIS IS SOUTH WILLOW AVENUE.

18:18:39 THEY ARE REQUESTING NINE DWELLING UNITS.

18:18:41 THEY GET EIGHT BY RIGHT, AND WITH THE DENSITY BONUS

18:18:44 PAYMENT, WHICH THEY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT HAS

18:18:47 BEEN REVIEWED BY THE LEGAL STAFF.

18:18:49 THEY GET ONE ADDITIONAL UNIT, A TOTAL OF NINE UNITS.

18:18:52 THEY HAVE PROVIDED INGRESS AND EGRESS BOTH FROM THE PAVED

18:18:58 ALLEYWAY AS WELL AS WILLOW.

18:19:00 BOTH TWO-WAY TRAFFIC, AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED THE REQUIRED

18:19:06 PARKING.

18:19:07 BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THE REQUIRED PARKING IS 20

18:19:10 SPACES.

18:19:11 THEY HAVE PROVIDED 24.

18:19:12 THEY HAVE STANDARD SETBACKS OF NORTH 5, SOUTH 5, EAST 3,

18:19:17 AND WEST 3.

18:19:18 AS FAR AS WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUESTED, THERE ARE TWO

18:19:22 WAIVERS TO 27284, ONE TO THE TREE TRUST FUND FOR

18:19:27 MITIGATION AND REQUIRED TREES.

18:19:33 ON THIS SITE PLAN, ALL THE GREENSPACE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF

18:19:38 THE RED IS THE ONLY GREENSPACE THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED

18:19:42 THAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR TREE PLANTING.

18:19:44 UNFORTUNATELY, THESE FIVE-FOOT STRIPS DON'T MEET THE

18:19:48 MINIMUM RADIUS FOR TREE PLANTING PER CODE.

18:19:51 NONE OF THESE AREAS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR EITHER REQUIRED

18:19:53 TREES OR MITIGATION TREES.

18:19:55 SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR PAYMENT INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND.

18:19:58 AND THEN THE SECOND WAIVER IS THEY ARE REQUIRED BASED ON

18:20:02 NINE DWELLING UNITS FOR MULTIFAMILY, 9 -- I'M SORRY.

18:20:06 3,150 SQUARE FEET OF GREENSPACE, AND THEY ARE ASKING TO

18:20:11 WAIVE THAT DOWN TO 1511 SQUARE FEET OF GREENSPACE.

18:20:16 IN THE STAFF REPORT, THIS IS FROM PLANNING DESIGN AND

18:20:20 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, WHERE I OUTLINE INCONSISTENCIES

18:20:24 BASED ON THE WAIVERS FOR GREENSPACE AND PAY INTO THE TREE

18:20:30 TRUST FUND FOR NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH LAND FOR PLANTINGS.

18:20:32 YET THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DENSITY BONUS FOR ONE

18:20:35 ADDITIONAL UNIT.

18:20:36 IT'S STAFF'S PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT THE APPLICATION

18:20:38 AND THE SITE COULD BE REDESIGNED TO BOTH GET ENOUGH

18:20:43 GREENSPACE PROVIDED ON-SITE TO MEET THE CODE IN THIS

18:20:47 LOCATION.

18:20:47 IF THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVED, THERE ARE CHANGES

18:20:50 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, OUTLINED BY PLANNING

18:20:53 DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

18:20:57 NATURAL RESOURCES ALSO FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.

18:21:01 THOSE FINDINGS ARE REFLECTED ON PAGE 4 OF YOUR STAFF

18:21:04 REPORT.

18:21:04 THEY ALSO HAVE SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS.

18:21:06 THEY CONSIST OF -- PAYMENT INTO THE TREE TRUST FUND AS

18:21:11 WELL AS THE MULTIFAMILY GREENSPACE WAIVER.

18:21:13 AND THEN THERE'S ONE CHANGE FOR STORMWATER SITE PLAN

18:21:17 MODIFICATION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

18:21:20 AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY GAVE YOU THEIR

18:21:23 REPORT.

18:21:24 OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND

18:21:28 THIS INCONSISTENT, AGAIN, BASED ON THE PLANNING DESIGN

18:21:33 AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES

18:21:36 BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF GREENSPACE AND TREE REQUIREMENTS

18:21:38 IN COORDINATION OR IN CONJUNCTION, RATHER, WITH THE

18:21:40 DENSITY BONUS.

18:20:55 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME?

18:20:58 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

18:21:06 APPLICANT?

18:21:06 >> GOOD EVENING.

18:21:11 WILLIAM MAFLOY, TAMPA, FLORIDA.

18:21:15 COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU FIRST HEARD THE PARTICULARS OF THIS

18:21:17 BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

18:21:18 AND IT WAS VERY APPARENT AT THAT MEETING PARK FORGET

18:21:23 PROJECT WAS INSUFFICIENT BOTH WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WITH

18:21:25 YOU.

18:21:26 SO WE WENT BACK AND WE REDESIGNED THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

18:21:30 SO THAT THE PARKING IS BENEATH THE STRUCTURE AND THE

18:21:34 STRUCTURE IS CANTILEVERED SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE PARKING.

18:21:38 THE PLAN WAS TO CONNECT WITH AN ENTIRELY CLEAN

18:21:41 APPLICATION, NO WAIVERS REQUESTED.

18:21:43 HOWEVER, WE RECEIVED A DETERMINATION ACTUALLY JUST BEFORE

18:21:46 CHRISTMAS FROM STAFF THAT THE SPACE BENEATH THE

18:21:50 CANTILEVER PORTION OF THE BUILDING, TYPICALLY WOULD NOT

18:21:55 CONSTITUTE GREEN SPACE SO THAT WIPED OUT BEFORE HALF OF

18:21:58 WHAT WE HAVE ON THE PLAN.

18:21:59 IT'S OUR CONTENTION WE ARE NOT GOING TO ARGUE THE

18:22:03 TECHNICALITIES OR LEGALITIES OF THAT, BUT THAT IS GREEN

18:22:08 SPACE.

18:22:08 WE CAN PLANT ON IT.

18:22:11 THE SUN WILL SHINE ON IT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, NOT IT OR IN

18:22:13 AND OUT SIDE OBVIOUSLY, BUT THAT WE FEEL IS THE CAUSE OF

18:22:17 MOST OF THE HEARTBURN WITH STAFF REPORT AT THIS POINT.

18:22:24 IT DOES EXIST ON THE CANTILEVER OF THE BUILDING.

18:22:27 IT JUST DOESN'T FALL WITHIN THE TECHNICAL INTERPRETATION

18:22:31 OF FOOTPRINT.

18:22:32 I HAVE GOT THE PRINCIPAL ON THE PROJECT HERE WHO IS

18:22:34 HIMSELF A LANDSCAPE DESIGNER TO EXPOUND A LITTLE MORE ON

18:22:38 HIS PLAN FOR THAT GREEN SPACE AND HOW WHILE WE CAN'T

18:22:41 COMMENT TOWARDS OUR REQUIREMENT IT WILL FUNCTION AS GREEN

18:22:44 SPACE.

18:22:45 BEFORE I BRING MR. BALCH UP, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT

18:22:48 I CAN ANSWER?

18:22:53 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT MAYBE THE

18:22:57 FUTURE.

18:22:57 THE PROBE WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY REALLY THROUGHOUT THE

18:22:59 WHOLE WORLD IS CLIMATE CHANGE.

18:23:01 AND I KNOW THIS ONE ZONING MATTER IS NOT GOING TO

18:23:06 INCREASE OR DECREASE.

18:23:07 THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, HOWEVER, ASKING FOR A BONUS

18:23:13 WHEN YOU DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF

18:23:17 SOME VISUAL -- IF NOT THIS COUNCIL OR PLANNING COMMISSION

18:23:21 OR CITY STAFF THAT DETERMINES WHAT YOU OR YOUR CLIENT --

18:23:27 THAT'S UP TO YOU WITHIN THE -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU

18:23:33 CAN ASK FOR -- EVERYTHING OVER THREE FOOT.

18:23:41 THAT'S OF WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

18:23:46 IN OTHER WORDS, THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT AND YOUR

18:23:51 CLIENT'S COURT TO DETERMINE WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT HOW TO

18:23:53 DEVELOP IT THE BEST TO MEET THE GOALS AND UNDERSTANDING

18:23:56 OF THEIR BENEFIT, COUNCIL'S BENEFIT, OF THE CITY.

18:23:58 >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

18:24:00 AND I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT AS DOES MY CLIENT.

18:24:03 AGAIN, THE IDEA THAT THE GREEN SPACE THAT WE THOUGHT WE

18:24:06 HAD PROVIDED WOULD NOT CONSTITUTE GREEN SPACE WAS SPRUNG

18:24:11 ON US -- NOT SPRUNG ON US.

18:24:13 WE BECAME AWARE OF IT BEFORE WE HAD A CHANCE TO

18:24:15 REEVALUATE THE FOOTPRINT OF HIS BUILDING.

18:24:18 THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE ARE SET FOR.

18:24:20 WE STILL STAND BY OUR ARGUMENT THAT THAT IS GREEN SPACE.

18:24:23 THE SUNSHINE IS ON IT.

18:24:25 IT WILL BE GREEN.

18:24:27 IT WILL BE LANDSCAPED.

18:24:29 IT WILL BE PLANTED.

18:24:30 AND WE DO MEAN TO BE GREEDY WITH THE BONUS AGREEMENT.

18:24:34 I WAS CONTEMPLATING WELL BEFORE THIS SPECTER CAME UP OF

18:24:37 NOT MEETING THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.

18:24:40 SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. BALCH ABOUT THE

18:24:47 LANDSCAPING.

18:24:49 >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD, SIR.

18:24:50 >> BRIAN BALCH.

18:24:56 I'M THE DEVELOPER BUILDER, ALSO OF A LICENSED LANDSCAPE

18:24:59 ARCHITECT.

18:25:03 JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE, ON THE SAME PAGE, WHAT

18:25:10 THIS LITTLE AREA IS, THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY ELEVATED

18:25:13 TEN FEET HIGH.

18:25:14 SO MOST PARKING GARAGES ARE TEN FOOT CLEAR.

18:25:20 SO ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, THEY ARE SAYING IT'S NOT

18:25:26 GREEN SPACE.

18:25:27 IT'S GOING TO BE PLANTED.

18:25:28 IT'S GOING TO HAVE MULCH, IRRIGATION, SHRUBS, AND IN

18:25:32 FACTORIES AS WELL.

18:25:33 THERE ARE PLENTY OF TREES THAT DON'T HAVE TO EXCEED TEN

18:25:36 OR 15 FEET TALL.

18:25:39 WE'LL HAVE A RADIUS BIGGER THAN FIVE FEET.

18:25:42 THERE'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 12 FEET TO THE EDGE OF THE PARKING

18:25:46 LOT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PARKING LOT DOES TAKE UP THE

18:25:49 WHOLE MIDDLE, BUT THE AREAS I HAVE GOT MARKED GREEN IS

18:25:52 THE TWO AREAS THAT CANTILEVER OVER ACTUAL GREEN SPACE.

18:25:56 IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PLANTS, ACTUALLY GOING TO BE

18:26:00 IRRIGATED, MULCHED, NICE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.

18:26:04 SO THERE IS A LOT OF GREEN SPACE AND THERE'S GOING TO BE

18:26:07 A LOT OF LIGHT THERE TOO.

18:26:08 AS FAR AS THE BUILDING GOING INTO NINE UNITS, AND PUSHING

18:26:12 THE ENVELOPE ON IT, THAT'S NOT EVEN A CONSIDERATION OF

18:26:17 MEETING THIS GREEN SPACE.

18:26:19 I COULD EASILY -- I CAN EASILY TAKE THIS BUILDING AND

18:26:25 PUSH, IF YOU WILL, PUSH THE TWO TOGETHER.

18:26:31 HOW DOES THIS THING GO?

18:26:34 I COULD EASILY PUSH THE TWO WINGS OF THIS BUILDING

18:26:36 TOGETHER.

18:26:37 THIS WING, IF YOU WILL, AND THAT WING, AND JUST GET THEM

18:26:42 TO THE EDGE OF THE PLATFORM, A NICE BIG BLOCK BUILDING,

18:26:45 NOT ATTRACTIVE.

18:26:47 THE IDEA WAS TO ALLOW LIGHT INTO THE DRIVE THROUGH THE

18:26:52 WHOLE BUILDING, ALTHOUGH IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE NORMAL

18:26:57 PARKING GARAGES.

18:26:59 RATHER THAN HAVING THIS AREA HERE OPEN TO ABOVE, A LOT OF

18:27:04 LIGHT.

18:27:04 IT WOULD BE NICE.

18:27:05 LIGHT PARKING GARAGE IN THE DAYTIME.

18:27:08 AND MORE ATTRACTIVE BUILDING.

18:27:11 AND I GUESS I CAPTURE, RECAPTURE THIS GREEN SPACE ALONG

18:27:15 HERE AND HERE.

18:27:17 I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED GREEN SPACE BUT IT'S THE

18:27:19 SAME THING.

18:27:20 STILL GOING TO BE LANDSCAPED.

18:27:21 STILL GOING TO HAVE SHRUBS, TREES, NOT A BIT OF

18:27:25 DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.

18:27:26 IT'S AESTHETIC.

18:27:27 BIGGEST AESTHETIC DIFFERENCE TO ME HAVE THE BUILDING

18:27:31 FUNCTION FOR RESIDENTS INSIDE OF IT, MUCH NICER TO HAVE

18:27:34 THAT BIG ATRIUM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY A PAVED PARKING LOT

18:27:38 UNDERNEATH.

18:27:39 SO THE NINE UNITS IS REALLY IRRELEVANT.

18:27:41 WHETHER IT'S EIGHT OR NINE UNITS, THE BUILDING IS GOING

18:27:44 TO STAY THE SAME SIZE AND I AM GOING TO GET RID OF THE

18:27:48 OPEN SPACE.

18:27:54 >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY IF I MISSED THIS BUT DO YOU HAVE

18:27:57 ELEVATIONS OF THIS?

18:27:58 I CAN'T PICTURE WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

18:27:59 >> THERE ARE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED WITH THE

18:28:02 PACKAGE: I MEAN, FROM THE LAST HEARING UNTIL NOW, I

18:28:07 MEAN, WE COMPLETELY SCRATCHED THE OLD BUILDING COMPLETELY

18:28:11 REDESIGNED THE BUILDING, IT'S ELEVATED, AND TAKEN ALL THE

18:28:17 WAY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ONLY TAKE ARCHITECTURE SO FAR AND

18:28:25 MISS THE PLAN.

18:28:26 BUT IN TERMS OF --

18:28:31 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY INTERRUPT FOR A SECOND.

18:28:33 MAY WE HAVE A COPY OF THE UPDATED REPORT?

18:28:46 I DON'T KNOW WHY.

18:28:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAYBE WE CAN HOLD THIS

18:28:52 AND CONTINUE THIS UNTIL THAT'S DISTRIBUTED.

18:28:58 THAT WILL PROBABLY BE BEST.

18:29:00 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S TAKE A TWO-MINUTE RECESS TO MAKE

18:29:03 COPIES.

18:29:03 LET'S MAKE IT FOUR MINUTES.

18:29:04 >> OKAY.

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[SOUNDING GAVEL]

18:39:07 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.

18:39:08 ROLL CALL PLEASE.

18:39:10 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HERE.

18:39:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.

18:39:11 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

18:39:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.

18:39:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.

18:39:17 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

18:39:17 >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.

18:39:18 AND ONE THING, BY THE WAY, BEFORE WE GET STARTED AUDIO

18:39:22 VIDEO ASKED ME TO STRESS WHENEVER YOU SPEAK, MAYBE SURE

18:39:25 SO THAT THEY CAN CAPTURE THE SPEAK RIGHT INTO THE

18:39:30 MICROPHONE.

18:39:31 THEY ASKED ME TO ASK EVERYBODY THAT.

18:39:33 I BELIEVE WE WERE DOING YOUR PRESENTATION.

18:39:37 LET'S CONTINUE.

18:39:46 AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN SIR.

18:39:48 >> I'M BRENT BALCH AND I'M THE DEVELOPER AND BUILDER OF

18:39:57 THIS PROJECT.

18:39:57 >>LUIS VIERA: WELL, ARE YOU FINISHED?

18:40:04 >> YEAH, I MEAN, MY POINT I GUESS IS THAT I COULD RESOLVE

18:40:09 ALL THIS ISSUE BY JUST SQUEEZING THE BUILDING TOGETHER,

18:40:12 TAKING OUT THE OPEN SPACE IN BETWEEN THE WINGS OF THE

18:40:15 BUILDING, AND THEN ALL OF THIS IS MOOT.

18:40:17 IT'S THE SAME BUILDING, STILL NINE UNITS.

18:40:21 I MEET THE INTERPRETATION OF THE GREEN SPACE.

18:40:23 BUT TREES NOT ONE THING THAT CHANGES IN TERMS OF THE

18:40:25 LANDSCAPING, THE PLANT, THE AMOUNT OF DIRT, SOD, TREES,

18:40:32 NOT A LOT, AND I WILL, BECAUSE IT'S STILL HEAVILY PLANTED

18:40:37 EITHER WAY.

18:40:38 AND I WOULD JUST SAY THIS, IT'S GOING TO HURT THE

18:40:41 AESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING, I FEEL LIKE, IF WE DON'T GET

18:40:44 THE NATURAL LIGHT DOWN INTO THE PARKING LOT.

18:40:47 BUT IT STILL WORKS.

18:40:48 THE BUILDING DOES WORK THAT WAY.

18:40:50 AND I REALLY NEED BOTH WAIVERS.

18:40:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:40:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T DESIGN BUILDINGS.

18:40:58 AND THIS COUNCIL HAS NO RATE TO DESIGN ANYTHING.

18:41:00 I'M NOT ASKING THAT.

18:41:01 I APPRECIATE THAT.

18:41:03 BUT IF YOU REDESIGN THE BUILDING LIKE YOU SAY YOU MIGHT

18:41:05 HAVE TO DO, DOES THAT MEAN YOU MEET THE PARKING

18:41:08 REQUIREMENTS THEN?

18:41:08 >> OH, YEAH, I WOULD USE THIS SAME EXACT BUILDING.

18:41:12 THERE IS 24 FEET IN BETWEEN THE MAIN UNITS, THE

18:41:17 APARTMENTS.

18:41:20 SERVICE IS OPEN TO ABOVE.

18:41:23 SO I HAVE 24 FEET.

18:41:24 I COULD SQUEEZE THESE TWO WINGS BASICALLY TOGETHER,

18:41:29 LIMITING THE 24 FEET, OR HALF OF IT, AT LEAST, AND THEN

18:41:35 THAT MOVES THIS BUILDING LINE TO THE EDGE OF THE PARKING

18:41:38 LOT THERE, AND THIS NORTH SIDE TO THE EDGE OF THE PARKING

18:41:41 LOT THERE.

18:41:42 AND THEN AS IT'S INTERPRETED, IT'S NOW MY GREEN SPACE IS

18:41:49 NOW MY GREEN SPACE.

18:41:51 SO THEN I GAIN ALL THIS GREEN COLOR.

18:41:57 I GAIN ALL OF THAT BACK IN TERMS OF THE CALCULATIONS OF

18:41:59 THE REQUIRED GREEN SPACE BY THE CITY, AND THAT I ALSO --

18:42:05 I AM GOING TO PLANT A LOT OF TREES.

18:42:08 I HAVE A LICENSED ARCHITECT LIKE I SAID.

18:42:11 I LOVE TREES, AMBULANCE PLANTS.

18:42:14 I'M THE OWNER, THE DEVELOPER.

18:42:16 IT USED TO LOOK NICE.

18:42:18 I WANT TO THE LOOK NICE.

18:42:19 SO IT WILL LOOK NICE.

18:42:20 AND I WILL PLANT WELL IN EXCESS, AT THE END OF THE DAY,

18:42:24 WHAT IS REQUIRED IN THIS TREE CODE.

18:42:27 I HAVE NEVER PLANTED THE MINIMUM ON ANY PROJECT.

18:42:29 I HAVE DEVELOPED LOTS OF SUN DIVISIONS AND WHATNOT IN THE

18:42:33 COUNTY.

18:42:40 I KNOW IT DOESN'T SAY I WILL EXCEED IT ON THERE BUT I

18:42:42 WILL.

18:42:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO PART OF YOUR PETITION INCLUDES THE

18:42:49 USE OF THE BONUS DENSITY PROVISION THAT'S IN THE CODE

18:42:54 THAT TAKES YOU, IN READING THE STAFF REPORT -- CORRECT ME

18:42:57 IF I AM WRONG -- IT TAKES YOU FROM EIGHT UNITS TO NINE

18:43:00 UNITS.

18:43:00 >> YES, SIR.

18:43:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST FOR ARGUMENT SAKE, AND I GUESS I

18:43:06 AM ASKING IF YOU LOOKED AT THIS.

18:43:07 IF YOU DIDN'T GO WITH THE FENCE AND YOU HAD EIGHT UNITS,

18:43:12 YOU WOULD NEED TWO LESS, I ASSUME, AT LEAST TWO LESS

18:43:18 PARKING SPACES ON THAT FIRST FLOOR.

18:43:26 WHICH I HAVEN'T DONE THE MATH BUT I HAVE A FEELING MIGHT

18:43:28 BE THE EQUIVALENT OF THE GREEN SPACE THAT YOU ARE SHORT.

18:43:31 DID YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THAT?

18:43:34 >> I MEAN, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE UNDERNEATH THE

18:43:36 BUILDING.

18:43:37 THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO GO IS UP.

18:43:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GOING TO STILL BE

18:43:44 UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING BECAUSE I FIGURED IF YOU WERE

18:43:46 TAKING AWAY A UNIT THEN PERHAPS YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT

18:43:48 MUCH BUILDING IN THE AIR.

18:43:50 WELL, LET ME ALSO PREFACE IT WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE

18:43:53 POSITIVE.

18:43:53 WHEN YOU WERE HERE LAST TIME, I THINK ONE PART OF OUR

18:43:56 COMMENTS WERE WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THIS BUILDING UP AND

18:44:00 HAVE MORE PARKING?

18:44:01 BECAUSE I THINK THE OBJECTION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS

18:44:04 PARKING, GOTTEN SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN PARKING.

18:44:08 YOU WERE LOOKING FOR I THINK --

18:44:10 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

18:44:11 I THINK WE HAVE 13 SPOTS.

18:44:17 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL GIVE YOU THAT.

18:44:19 AND WHAT MR. MIRANDA SAID, WE DON'T TELL PEOPLE HOW TO

18:44:22 REDESIGN THEIR BUILDING.

18:44:23 BUT THE FACT THAT YOU DID, AND YOU NOW HAVE PARKING

18:44:27 REQUIREMENTS WHICH IS PRETTY CRITICAL IN THESE

18:44:29 NEIGHBORHOODS.

18:44:30 THESE ARE VERY TIGHT STREETS.

18:44:31 A LOT OF SHORTAGE OF PARKING.

18:44:33 A LOT OF OVERFLOW FROM U.T.

18:44:37 I THINK YOU MENTIONED LAST TIME YOU WERE HOPING THIS

18:44:39 WOULD BE A STUDENT OCCUPIED TYPE OF FACILITY.

18:44:42 BUT ANYWAY, I GUESS MY POINT BEING, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS IF

18:44:49 THERE'S REDUCTION OF A UNIT, YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR A BONUS,

18:44:51 YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO SNEAK IN SOME MORE GREEN SPACE.

18:44:55 BUT YOU ARE SAYING IT WOULD BE UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING

18:44:57 ANYWAY.

18:44:58 >> YEAH.

18:44:59 I WOULD TOTALLY REDESIGN THE BUILDING WITHOUT THAT EXTRA

18:45:01 UNIT.

18:45:02 I STILL HAVE TO GO UP.

18:45:04 I STILL HAVE TO -- I MEAN, IT WOULD BE MINIMAL.

18:45:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

18:45:10 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:45:11 ANYONE ELSE?

18:45:12 OKAY.

18:45:12 THANK YOU, SIR.

18:45:14 ANYTHING FURTHER?

18:45:14 >> JUST ONE HOUSEKEEPING THING.

18:45:23 WE WEREN'T ALERTED AGAIN ABOUT THE ISSUE, ACCESS ON

18:45:28 ACCOUNT OF NOT HAVING FIRST FLOOR UNITS.

18:45:30 WE WILL HAVE ELEVATED OR.

18:45:31 I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVEN AN ISSUE.

18:45:33 I UNDERSTAND.

18:45:34 SO HOPEFULLY TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE.

18:45:36 I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT AND I HOPE YOU DO TO SOME

18:45:39 DEGREE THAT MY CLIENT IS VERY MUCH WILLING TO WORK WITH

18:45:41 THIS PROJECT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DO FEEL LIKE WE ARE

18:45:43 TRYING TO CHASE A MOVING TARGET HERE.

18:45:45 WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING

18:45:47 SITUATION, AND IN DOING SO WE HAVE CREATED ANOTHER BIT OF

18:45:51 A PROBLEM WITH THE GREEN SPACE.

18:45:53 AND AGAIN I WOULD JUST REITERATE INFORM PRACTICAL

18:45:56 PURPOSES, THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT IS MET OF THE IT

18:45:58 JUST DOESN'T FALL UNDER THE BLACK'S LAW DICTIONARY OF

18:46:01 GREEN SPACE.

18:46:03 SO WITH THAT, I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM SOME MORE

18:46:06 NEIGHBORS.

18:46:08 WE STILL HAVE TO CONTEND WITH THIS.

18:46:12 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

18:46:12 IF YOU ARE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 2, NOW

18:46:15 IS YOUR TIME TO PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR PEACE.

18:46:20 >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

18:46:22 I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT 1134, 116, 115, AND

18:46:27 117 SOUTH WILLOW.

18:46:29 THOSE ARE THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT ACROSS TO THE WEST, AND

18:46:33 THE TWO PROPERTIES NORTH AND SOUTH OF THIS PETITIONER'S

18:46:36 PROPERTY.

18:46:38 THERE'S A CRITERIA THAT YOU GO THROUGH WHEN YOU ARE

18:46:40 ASKING FOR A BONUS.

18:46:42 AND USUALLY THERE'S MITIGATION INVOLVED.

18:46:44 AND THERE'S A JUSTIFICATION.

18:46:46 THERE IS NONE EXCEPT THEY WANT IT.

18:46:50 WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT LANDSCAPING THEY ARE TALKING

18:46:52 ABOUT THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING. THIS

18:46:55 ORIENTS TOWARDS WILLOW, WHICH IS A VERY HIGHLY TRAFFICKED

18:46:59 AREA.

18:47:00 IT'S GATEWAY BETWEEN THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND THE

18:47:05 CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY, HYDE PARK VILLAGE, A WHOLE BUNCH OF

18:47:08 DIFFERENT AREAS.

18:47:10 IT'S A NARROW STREET.

18:47:11 SO WHEN THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT SQUEEZING THE SIDES, THE

18:47:16 PEOPLE ON THE NORTH SIDE STILL HAVE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS

18:47:19 AND THAT'S THE NORTH.

18:47:20 THERE'S THE SUN SHINING IN THERE IS MINIMAL.

18:47:22 THE PEOPLE ON THE SOUTH SIDE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE.

18:47:25 THEY HAVE A BUILDING.

18:47:26 SO IT DOESN'T REALLY -- IT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THE

18:47:29 ISSUE OF HOW DO YOU MAKE THE STREETSCAPE ATTRACTIVE.

18:47:33 HOW DO YOU MAKE THIS BUILDING LOOK LIKE THE FRONT IS ON

18:47:36 WILLOW INSTEAD OF ON THE SIDES?

18:47:38 YOU REDESIGN IT.

18:47:39 THAT'S HOW YOU DO THAT.

18:47:41 AND I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THEY GO BACK TO THE DRAWING

18:47:44 BOARD AND REDO THIS.

18:47:46 THERE'S NINE DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT'S ESTABLISHED FOR A

18:47:49 PD TO GO THROUGH, AND IT SAYS THE PURPOSE OF THE ARTICLE

18:47:53 IS TO PROVIDE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT RECOGNIZE UNIQUE

18:47:56 CONDITIONS, ALLOW DESIGN FLEXIBILITY, PROMOTE PLANNED

18:47:59 DIVERSIFICATION, INTEGRATION OF STRUCTURES, AND ZONING

18:48:03 DISTRICTS THAT CAN'T BE ACCOMMODATED THROUGH THE EXISTING

18:48:05 DISTRICT.

18:48:06 IT DEEMS IT NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC, HEALTH,

18:48:09 SAFETY AND WELFARE. THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUE

18:48:11 REGARDING THE FRONTAGE LOOKING LIKE THE FRONT INSTEAD OF

18:48:15 THE SIDE.

18:48:16 IT DOESN'T PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF

18:48:19 THE LAND.

18:48:20 IT'S ORIENTED SIDE WAYS SO IT'S TRAVERSE OF WHERE IT

18:48:24 SHOULD BE.

18:48:25 AND THE COUNCIL WENT THROUGH GREAT LENGTHS, AND OTHER

18:48:29 COUNCILS AND RECENTLY AS WELL, MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT'S THE

18:48:32 FRONT, NOT THE END SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

18:48:36 AND THEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH.

18:48:37 THERE'S NO LANDSCAPING THERE.

18:48:39 HE'S PUTTING IT ALL ON THE SIDE UNDERNEATH THE

18:48:42 CANTILEVERED CANOPY.

18:48:44 IT DOESN'T WORK.

18:48:45 AND THEY HAVEN'T JUSTIFIED THE BONUS TO GO FROM EIGHT TO

18:48:48 NINE.

18:48:48 OKAY, GREAT, THEY HAVE NOW MET THE PARKING REQUIREMENT.

18:48:51 WE APPLAUD THAT.

18:48:52 BUT THEY HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE OTHER PRINCIPAL ISSUES

18:48:55 ABOUT WHY YOU ARE ASKING FOR ANOTHER UNIT, HOW IS THIS

18:48:58 INTEGRATED INTO THE COMMUNITY, HOW DOES IT RELATE TO THE

18:49:01 OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, THAT ARE HEAVILY

18:49:03 LANDSCAPED ALL ALONG WILLOW, AND THEY ARE NICELY

18:49:07 ORIENTED.

18:49:09 SO YOU HAVE ADDRESSED PART OF THE PROBLEM.

18:49:11 BUT AS I SAID, THERE'S NINE CRITERIA HERE.

18:49:14 THERE ARE FIVE MOWER THAT ADDRESS ISSUES REGARDING

18:49:18 WAIVERS, THAT HAS TO PRESENT UNIQUE AND SINGULAR.

18:49:22 AND IT HAS TO BE IN HARMONY WITH THE OTHER PROPERTIES.

18:49:25 AND IT HAS TO BE IN CONCORDANCE WITH THE CODE.

18:49:28 THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF CORRECTLY POINTED

18:49:31 ALL OF THOSE THINGS OUT.

18:49:32 [BELL SOUNDS]

18:49:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:49:33 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

18:49:34 NEXT, PLEASE.

18:49:34 >> MY NAME IS CHRIS LA GORY, I OWN THE PROPERTY 114 FILL

18:49:45 OH SOUTH OF THIS.

18:49:46 I ALSO OWN TECHNICALLY THREE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET WHICH

18:49:49 WOULD BE 117 WHICH USED TO BE 115, AND NOW WE ARE 113

18:49:53 WILLOW.

18:49:54 MY ISSUE BEFORE WAS THE PARKING BECAUSE MY LOTS, MY

18:49:58 PROPERTY WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD BE USED IF THEY

18:50:01 DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING, AND I THINK THEY MADE SOME

18:50:05 COMMENTS THAT THEY COULD PARK U.T. PARKING OR SOMETHING

18:50:10 LIKE THAT WHICH IS QUARTER MILE, HALF MILE AWAY WHICH

18:50:12 ISN'T FEASIBLE.

18:50:13 I APPLAUD THEM FOR FIXING THE PARKING PROBLEM.

18:50:16 BUT I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON MY BUILDING TO MAKE IT LOOK

18:50:20 NICE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CITY REQUIRED.

18:50:24 I MET ALL THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.

18:50:26 I HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.

18:50:28 MR. SCHAEFER, WHO MR. MICHELINI REPRESENTS, ALSO CAN'T BE

18:50:33 HERE BECAUSE HE'S IN DEPOSITIONS RIGHT NOW AND CAN'T GET

18:50:36 OUT OF THE DEPOSITIONS TO GET OVER HERE.

18:50:39 I GOT A TEXT FROM HIM.

18:50:40 BUT HE ALSO SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT HE'S

18:50:43 GOT THE PROPER GREEN SPACE, THE BUILDINGS ARE OR

18:50:46 INTERCEPTED THE RIGHT WAY THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO

18:50:48 BE.

18:50:49 WE DON'T SEE WHY SOMEONE CAN COME IN HERE AND NOT DO THAT

18:50:52 H.WE DON'T QUANTITY OUR BLOCK WHICH WE INVESTED A LOT OF

18:50:55 MONEY AND A LOT OF TIME AND FRANKLY PROBABLY SPENT MORE

18:50:58 BUILDINGS THAN OUR WIVES WOULD WANT US TO, TO NOT HAVE

18:51:03 THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK RIGHT.

18:51:05 WE ARE NOT ASKING BUT FOR THE CODES TO BE COMPLIED WITH.

18:51:07 PARKING, NOW THE GREEN SPACING, ORIENTATION, EVERYTHING

18:51:10 THAT MR. MICHELINI STATED.

18:51:12 I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT IS UNREASONABLE.

18:51:14 THEY WERE MORE THAN AWARE OF THE CODES AHEAD OF TIME.

18:51:17 THEY SHOULD HAVE PLANNED OUT IN THE BEGINNING TO HAVE

18:51:20 ENOUGH PARKING.

18:51:21 THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.

18:51:23 WHY U.T. IS THE AN OPTION FOR PARKING ON WILLOW.

18:51:26 THEY FIXED THAT NOW, BUT AGAIN NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY

18:51:31 IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER, EVEN THOUGH IT IS GREEN SPACE,

18:51:35 EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GOING TO MEET THE DEFINITION.

18:51:39 AS A LAWYER, WE HAVE A DEFINITION FOR A REASON.

18:51:42 IF I TRIED TO TELL A JUDGE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE

18:51:44 DEFINITION MEANS, I WOULD BE LAUGHED OUT OF THE

18:51:49 COURTROOM.

18:51:50 I AM ASKING THEY SIMPLY COMPLY WITH THE SAME RULES I HAVE

18:51:52 HAD TO COMPLY WITH, MR. SCHAEFER HAD TO COMPLY WITH AND

18:51:56 EVERYONE ELSE WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH.

18:51:57 WE ARE NOT ASKING ANY MORE.

18:52:01 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:52:01 ANYONE ELSE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 2?

18:52:04 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

18:52:06 OKAY.

18:52:06 SIR, IF YOU HAVE ANY REBUTTAL.

18:52:09 >> I DON'T THINK I CAN EXPLAIN IT ANY MORE ON THE GREEN

18:52:15 SPACE.

18:52:16 I'M SORRY, WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD.

18:52:19 I CAN'T EXPAND ANY MORE ON THE GREEN SPACE.

18:52:22 WE DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO ADDRESS IT ON THE SITE PLAN

18:52:24 IN BETWEEN STAFF REPORT BEING PUBLISHED AND THE

18:52:27 TIMELINESS FOR THIS HEARING.

18:52:28 IF IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL, MY CLIENT HAS SAID HE CAN GO

18:52:34 BACK AND REDESIGN THIS BUILDING.

18:52:35 WE BOTH BELIEVE IT'S TO THE DETRIMENT TO THE OVERALL

18:52:40 DESIGN OF THE BUILDING TO TAKE OUT THAT ATRIUM AND

18:52:42 SQUEEZE IT.

18:52:43 IT'S POSSIBLE.

18:52:44 BACK IN SEPTEMBER WE DID COMMIT AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY

18:52:47 COULD TO STREETSCAPE SO TO SPEAK ON WILLOW.

18:52:49 MY CLIENT INDICATED HE PROVIDED SIGNAGE.

18:52:52 HE PROVIDED ARCHITECTURAL FINISHED WALL OF SOME SORT.

18:52:56 HE MENTIONED BRICK.

18:52:57 FINISHING ELEMENTS.

18:52:58 AT THIS POINT, HE HAS NOT UNDERTAKEN TO RETAIN AN

18:53:02 ARCHITECT TO THAT END TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN ELEVATION.

18:53:05 WHAT WE PROPOSED IS ZONING APPROVAL.

18:53:08 WE DON'T HAVE A BUILDING TO DESIGN AT THIS POINT.

18:53:10 AGAIN THAT'S KIND OF A MOVING TARGET.

18:53:17 THAT WILLOW SIDE STREET WOULD BE ARCHITECTURALLY ANYONE

18:53:22 ISSUED AND PRESENTED AS A BUILDING FACADE.

18:53:26 I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE

18:53:30 CODE BUT WE ARE MORE THAN OPEN TO AGREEING TO IT.

18:53:32 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE SIR?

18:53:34 >> THAT'S ALL.

18:53:35 THANK YOU.

18:53:36 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

18:53:36 ANY QUESTIONS?

18:53:37 AND, SIR, YOU HAD INDICATED ABOUT SHIFT HAD GONE THE

18:53:42 DESIGN FOR MORE GREEN SPACE.

18:53:44 JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CLOSED THIS, AND YOU DON'T

18:53:48 REQUEST A CONTINUANCE, YOU FORFEIT THAT, JUST TO LET YOU

18:53:53 KNOW.

18:53:59 >> BRENT BALCH.

18:54:02 SO CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

18:54:04 I MEAN, I WILL MOVE THIS IN AND I WILL MEET THE GREEN

18:54:08 SPACE REQUIREMENT.

18:54:09 I CAN AND I WILL.

18:54:13 DO WE NEED A CONTINUANCE FOR THAT?

18:54:16 >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH YOUR

18:54:18 ATTORNEY.

18:54:18 I JUST SAID ONCE WE CLOSE IT, YOUR OPTIONS FOR

18:54:21 CONTINUANCE OF TIME BEFORE A DECISION ENDS.

18:54:25 SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TWO MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT IT.

18:54:29 >> I THINK OUR PREFERENCE IS NOT TO ROLL THE DICE RIGHT

18:54:35 NOW.

18:54:36 WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK WITH CLEAR DIRECTION THAT WE

18:54:40 WILL MEET THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.

18:54:41 WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK WITH NO WAIVERS REQUESTED AND

18:54:44 WE HOPE THAT EVERYONE REMEMBERS THIS CONVERSATION.

18:54:46 >> WE ARE STILL CLEAR ON THE TWO WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED.

18:54:51 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I'M SORRY, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR

18:54:52 NAME.

18:54:52 >> I'M BRENT BALCH AGAIN.

18:54:56 I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE

18:55:00 TWO WAIVERS ARE, IS THAT THE GREEN SPACE WAS 3150 SQUARE

18:55:06 FEET, I BELIEVE, RIGHT THEREABOUTS, 1500.

18:55:08 I AM GOING TO PROVIDE ANOTHER 1500 FEET OF GREEN SPACE.

18:55:15 I WILL BE 100% ON THAT NUMBER.

18:55:17 AND THAT WILL ALSO ALLEVIATE THE ISSUE ABOUT THE TREES,

18:55:20 THE AMOUNT OF TREES REQUIRED ON-SITE.

18:55:22 I WILL MEET THAT AS WELL.

18:55:24 I MEET THOSE TWO THINGS AND THERE'S NO OTHER WAIVERS THAT

18:55:30 WE ARE ASKING FOR.

18:55:31 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

18:55:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: LET'S BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR FOR THE

18:55:36 RECORD.

18:55:37 OKAY.

18:55:38 WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE.

18:55:39 YOU NOTICE, WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE.

18:55:41 ALL YOU CAN DO IS GO BACK AT YOUR DECISION TO GO BACK.

18:55:45 WE ARE NOT MAKING YOU GO BACK.

18:55:47 YOU DO IT ON YOUR OWN VOLITION.

18:55:50 GO BACK, DO WHATEVER YOU DESIRE TO DO.

18:55:52 YOU COME BACK.

18:55:54 THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF ANYTHING WHEN YOU COME BACK.

18:55:58 SO IT'S DIDN'T LIKE THE DIRECTION YOUR VOICE --

18:56:00 >> NO, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND I MEET WHAT IS BEING ASKED OF

18:56:03 US BY THE CITY.

18:56:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE'S NO GUARANTEES.

18:56:12 I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF BEFORE WE WRAP UP.

18:56:15 IT RELATES TO THE BONUS PROVISION.

18:56:24 ARE THERE ANY CRITERIA -- I LOOKED AT THE CODE PROVISIONS

18:56:30 TRYING TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION MYSELF BUT I COULDN'T

18:56:32 FIGURE IT OUT.

18:56:33 ARE THERE ANY CRITERIA SPECIFIC IN THE CODE OR OTHERWISE

18:56:38 THAT A PETITIONER WOULD NEED TO MEET IN ORDER TO QUALIFY

18:56:44 TO USE THE BONUS PROVISION OTHER THAN PAYING THE AMOUNT

18:56:48 OF MONEY THAT'S CALCULATED?

18:56:52 I KNOW THERE'S LOCATIONAL CRITERIA BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY

18:56:56 PROBABLY MEET THAT.

18:56:57 ANYTHING ELSE THAT I AM MISSING?

18:57:03 >>CATE WELLS: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

18:57:04 27-140 IS THE CODIFICATION OF THE BONUS PROVISION

18:57:09 ABILITY.

18:57:10 AND IN ADDITION TO MAKING A PAYMENT THAT WOULD GO TO

18:57:13 DIFFERENT CIP PROJECTS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS DEVELOPER HAS

18:57:16 ELECTED TO DO, THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS WHICH INCLUDE A

18:57:19 PROVISION OF 10% OF THE PROJECT'S DWELLING UNIT IN

18:57:23 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE'S DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, THERE'S

18:57:27 LEED CERTIFICATION.

18:57:27 SO THERE ARE OTHER METHODS BY WHICH A DEVELOPER WOULD

18:57:32 QUALIFY FOR THE BONUS DENSITY THAT'S BEING REQUESTED.

18:57:36 THE WAY THIS IS SET UP, THIS SECTION IDENTIFIED THE

18:57:44 DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN MEET THE BONUS REQUIREMENTS, AND

18:57:48 IT'S REALLY THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE DEVELOPER'S

18:57:51 ELECTION TO CHOOSE WHICH ONE THEY WANT TO APPLY UNDER.

18:57:56 SO I DON'T SEE THIS SECTION OF THE CODE AS ALLOWING THIS

18:58:02 CITY COUNCIL THE DISCRETION TO DECIDE HOW TO MEET THE

18:58:05 BONUS DENSITY.

18:58:06 WE HAVE SET OUT IN THE CODE HOW YOU CAN MEET IT, AND THIS

18:58:10 ALLOWS THE DEVELOPER, THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAKE THAT

18:58:13 ELECTION.

18:58:14 BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S FOR CITY COUNCIL INITIALLY TO DECIDE

18:58:17 UNDER THE REZONING APPLICATION WHETHER THE DENSITY, THE

18:58:20 INCREASE IN DENSITY SHOULD BE GRANTED.

18:58:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOVING ASIDE THE INCREASE FROM THE

18:58:28 BONUS PROVISION?

18:58:29 IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

18:58:31 >>CATE WELLS: YES, SIR.

18:58:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT WE HAVE IN A CRITERIA TO WORK

18:58:34 WITH.

18:58:35 HOW DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION?

18:58:38 >>CATE WELLS: THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE WITH REGARD TO HOW

18:58:41 THOSE MONEYS WOULD BE UTILIZED OR HOW THEY ELECT FOR THE

18:58:45 BONUS DENSITY.

18:58:46 BUT IT'S PART OF COUNCIL'S REVIEW IN THE REZONING

18:58:51 APPLICATION TO STUDY WHETHER TO ALLOW FOR THAT INCREASE

18:58:54 IN DENSITY.

18:58:55 SEPARATE AND APART FROM WHAT THE CRITERIA IS.

18:58:58 BUT THE CRITERIA SELECTED BY THE DEVELOPER SHOULD NOT BE

18:59:03 THE DECISION THAT DAVIS WHETHER OR NOT THE DENSITY SHOULD

18:59:05 BE GRANTED.

18:59:06 YOU GO BACK TO YOUR PD ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND THOSE

18:59:10 REQUIREMENTS THAT INCREASE IN DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE.

18:59:13 THEN WE QUANTIFY IT THROUGH AN AGREEMENT OHIO THOSE

18:59:16 MONEYS ARE GOING TO BE SPENT OR HOW THEY ELECT TO APPLY

18:59:19 THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY.

18:59:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH IT, WE WOULD

18:59:25 HAVE TO LOOK OUTSIDE TO 27-140 IN THE CONCEPTS OF DENSITY

18:59:36 AND APPROPRIATENESS, CONSISTENCY, NOT SPECIFICALLY

18:59:39 SPELLED OUT IN 121.

18:59:43 >>CATE WELLS: I AGREE.

18:59:44 THAT CRITERIA WOULD FALL UNDER THE CRITERIA IN CHAPTER 27

18:59:48 FOR THE REQUEST FOR A PD REZONING.

18:59:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

18:59:51 THANK YOU.

18:59:51 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

18:59:52 OKAY.

18:59:54 COME FORWARD.

18:59:57 AND AGAIN I WANT TO REEMPHASIS WHAT OUR COLLEAGUE

19:00:00 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER SAID.

19:00:01 IF YOU MAKE CHANGES, IT GUARANTEES NOTHING.

19:00:03 >> I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY AND MY CLIENT WILL, YES.

19:00:07 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST MAKING SURE.

19:00:12 WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL THE NEXT

19:00:14 AVAILABLE HEARING.

19:00:15 >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT DATES DO WE HAVE?

19:00:17 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]

19:00:32 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YOUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE

19:00:33 EVENING IS FEBRUARY 13th.

19:00:36 THAT SHOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH TIME.

19:00:39 FEBRUARY 13th.

19:00:40 >>CHAIRMAN: BEFORE WE DO THAT, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE IN

19:00:43 THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CONTINUANCE

19:00:45 ONLY?

19:00:47 MR. LAGORY AND MR. MICHELINI?

19:00:53 >>STEVE MICHELINI: I AM NOT SURE THEY ARE GOING TO GET

19:00:55 THIS DONE BY THE 13th.

19:00:56 AND WE ALSO REQUEST THEY SPEAK OR MEAT REQUEST US IN

19:00:59 ADVANCE SO WE DON'T KEEP GOING THROUGH THIS BACK AND

19:01:02 FORTH AT COUNCIL.

19:01:03 THANK YOU.

19:01:04 >>LUIS VIERA: AND MR. LAGORY?

19:01:12 OKAY.

19:01:12 AND MR. MICHELINI BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT WHICH IS

19:01:14 OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A COMMITMENT AT ALL, BUT JUST

19:01:19 PROBABLY --

19:01:21 >> YES, SIR.

19:01:22 >>LUIS VIERA: LIKE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

19:01:23 >> YES, SIR.

19:01:24 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

19:01:25 DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

19:01:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MOTION TO CONTINUE IT.

19:01:32 TO FEBRUARY 13th.

19:01:35 EARLY ON THE AGENDA IS FINE.

19:01:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: [OFF MICROPHONE] FIRST ON THE AGENDA?

19:01:41 >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO IT.

19:01:42 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

19:01:44 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

19:01:45 ALL IN FAVOR?

19:01:46 ANY OPPOSED?

19:01:48 THANK YOU, SIR.

19:01:50 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 3.

19:01:52 >>RYAN MANASSE: ITEM NUMBER 4, DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN

19:02:02 COORDINATION.

19:02:03 ITEM 4 IS FOR REZ 19-107 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3116

19:02:08 WEST NORTH A STREET.

19:02:09 THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM

19:02:11 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50 TO RESIDENTIAL

19:02:15 MULTIFAMILY RM-16.

19:02:16 >> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

19:02:33 DAVE HAAS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

19:02:36 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

19:02:36 THE NEXT CASE IS THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND

19:02:40 OAKFORD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:02:42 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT STOP

19:02:46 AT THE CORNER OF WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND NORTH

19:02:48 MacDILL AVENUE.

19:02:48 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS BROTHERS PARK

19:02:53 LOCATED WITHIN A HALF MILE NORTH OF THE SUNSET SITE.

19:02:56 VILLA BROTHERS.

19:02:57 IT IS NOT LOCATE -- OR IT IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL D

19:03:00 EVACUATION ZONE. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE

19:03:03 AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

19:03:05 YOU WILL SEE THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWN HERE OUTLINED IN

19:03:07 PURPLE.

19:03:09 THIS IS NORTH MacDILL AVENUE.

19:03:10 THIS IS NORTH -- WEST NORTH A STREET.

19:03:14 AND ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH IS WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.

19:03:18 YOU WILL SEE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE NORTH OF

19:03:23 NORTH A STREET AND A COMMERCIAL MORE TOWARDS KENNEDY.

19:03:30 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

19:03:33 THE SUBJECT SITE IS URBAN MIXED USE 60 FUTURE LAND USE

19:03:40 CATEGORY SURROUNDED BY UMU 60 TO THE EAST, WEST AND SOUTH

19:03:44 OF THE SITE.

19:03:45 TO THE NORTH YOU WILL SEE THE RESIDENTIAL 10 IN THAT

19:03:48 ORANGISH TAN COLOR.

19:03:52 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION, FOUND

19:03:54 THE REQUEST FOLLOWS MANY OF THE POLICIES WITHIN THE

19:03:59 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT RELATES TO HOUSING, OVERALL

19:04:01 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY PLANNING STRATEGY,

19:04:03 AND THE PROPOSAL TO REZONE TO RM-16 IS WELL BELOW WHAT

19:04:09 CAN BE CONSIDERED UMU 60 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY. THIS

19:04:15 WILL PROVIDE APPROPRIATE TRANSITION FROM WEST KENNEDY TO

19:04:20 THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOUSES TO THE NORTH.

19:04:22 THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO LOCATED IN AN AERIAL WITH ACCESS

19:04:25 TO TRANSIT, WHICH SUPPORTS A NUMBER OF THE POLICIES IN

19:04:28 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH PROVIDES HOUSING AND

19:04:31 DENSITIES THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE TO TRANSIT AND NEIGHBORHOOD

19:04:35 SERVICES.

19:04:36 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION

19:04:38 STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA

19:04:40 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

19:04:42 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:04:42 ANY QUESTIONS?

19:04:44 THANK YOU.

19:04:45 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A

19:04:52 EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST.

19:04:54 THEREFORE THERE ARE NO WAIVERS PERMITTED.

19:04:57 THE APPLICANT AGAIN IS PROPOSING TO REZONE PROPERTY AT

19:05:01 3116 WEST NORTH A STREET FROM RS-50 TO RM-16 TO ALLOW FOR

19:05:02 THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY WITH RESIDENTIAL

19:05:05 MULTIFAMILY USES. THIS REQUEST ALSO INCLUDES A PARCEL TO

19:05:07 THE EAST WHICH HAS NOT BEEN ASSIGNED AN ADDRESS.

19:05:10 THE 7.73-ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH ON WEST NORTH A

19:05:14 STREET BETWEEN NORTH MANHATTAN AVENUE AND NORTH

19:05:16 MacDILL AVENUE.

19:05:17 THE PROPERTY IS OCCUPIED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY

19:05:21 STRUCTURE BUILT IN 1986 AND VACANT UNDEVELOPED LAND.

19:05:28 HERE IS THE AERIAL.

19:05:30 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY

19:05:34 DWELLING TO THE NORTH AND WEST IN AN RS-50 ZONING

19:05:37 DISTRICT AND COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH AND EAST IN THE

19:05:38 CG ZONING DISTRICT.

19:05:39 THE DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL APPLICABLE CITY OF

19:05:41 TAMPA DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT TIME OF PERMITTING

19:05:45 INCLUDING REQUIRED USE TO USE BUFFERING.

19:05:47 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN 1,000

19:05:50 FEET ON THE PROPERTY AS SHOWN ON THE MAP AS WELL.

19:05:53 AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.

19:05:56 HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.

19:05:57 3116 WEST NORTH A STREET.

19:06:00 AND THE ASSOCIATED FOLIO ATTACHED TO THIS REQUEST.

19:06:05 AND THE SUBJECT SITE NEXT TO THE STRUCTURE.

19:06:09 THERE'S THE REAR ALLEY TOWARDS KENNEDY.

19:06:12 KENNEDY WOULD BE ON YOUR LEFT.

19:06:15 AND THAT'S LOOKING WEST.

19:06:17 ALLEY LOOKING EAST, THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

19:06:21 THIS IS 3120 NORTH A STREET, THE NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST.

19:06:25 NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST AT 3106 NORTH A STREET.

19:06:29 AND THIS IS DIRECTLY NORTH IS THAT 202 WOODLAND STREET,

19:06:34 THE NORTHERN PROPERTY R NEIGHBOR.

19:06:38 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MISSED THE MOST IMPORTANT LANDMARK

19:06:40 IS THE DO NUT SHOP.

19:06:42 >> THE CHRIS PEA CREAM?

19:06:44 WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THAT ONE, RIGHT?

19:06:46 THE STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND FOUND IT

19:06:50 CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCE.

19:06:52 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

19:06:54 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

19:06:55 THANK YOU, SIR.

19:06:57 APPLICANT?

19:06:57 >> MY NAME IS BOB SAINT PIERRE, THE APPLICANT

19:07:05 REPRESENTING PROPERTY OWNER.

19:07:06 THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT.

19:07:09 AS SHOWN, BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE

19:07:12 STAFF AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIND THE

19:07:14 REZONING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY TAMPA CODE OF

19:07:19 ORDINANCES AND THE PROVISIONS OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

19:07:21 PLAN.

19:07:23 WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKING THE COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD

19:07:25 WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION.

19:07:26 I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

19:07:28 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:07:29 ANY QUESTIONS?

19:07:32 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

19:07:36 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMPELLING

19:07:38 REASON WHY IN SHOULD BE CHANGED.

19:07:45 I MEAN, YOU KNOW THE AREA.

19:07:47 WE KNOW THE AREA.

19:07:49 THERE'S A MIXTURE OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN THERE.

19:07:54 TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, NORTH A IS ACTUALLY HAD A RESURGENCE

19:07:59 OF AND IT'S SORT OF SURPRISED ME, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES UP

19:08:04 AND DOWN THE STREET.

19:08:06 I'M HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE PICTURING THIS EXACT BLOCK.

19:08:09 AND I WAS HOPING YOU MIGHT HAVE PICTURES OF THE BLOCK

19:08:12 FACE ON BOTH SIDES, OR MAYBE STAFF, SPECIFICALLY, AND

19:08:19 ALSO SOMETIMES WE SEE A COMPARISON OF HOW MUCH

19:08:24 SINGLE-FAMILY AND HOW MUCH MULTIFAMILY, THAT SORT OF

19:08:27 THING.

19:08:27 HOW MANY UNITS ULTIMATELY CAN YOU BUILD IF YOU GO TO THE

19:08:31 RM-16?

19:08:32 >> PER THE REPORT, WE COULD DO 11 AND WE ARE PLANNING ON

19:08:37 DOING 8.

19:08:39 FOUR DWELLINGS.

19:08:40 EACH WITH TWO SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED PRODUCTS.

19:08:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: FOUR BUILDINGS, TWO UNITS PER, SPACE

19:08:47 BETWEEN THEM?

19:08:47 OR --

19:08:48 >> WHATEVER THE RM-16 SETBACKS ARE.

19:08:51 AGAIN IT'S EUCLIDEAN ZONING SO WE HAVE TO MEET ALL THE

19:08:54 REQUIREMENTS OF THE RM-16.

19:08:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WELL, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF

19:09:01 THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

19:09:02 IS THERE SPACE BETWEEN THOSE BUILDINGS?

19:09:06 OR CAN ALL THOSE BUILDINGS BEING CONJOINED?

19:09:10 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DESIGN. THIS IS BEFORE

19:09:13 EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST.

19:09:15 HE WILL HAVE TO MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS FOR RM-16 AT TIME

19:09:18 OF PERMITTING.

19:09:19 IF THERE ARE BUILDING SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS, THAT IS IN

19:09:20 OUR CODE, IF YOU WERE TO TRY TO SEPARATE RESIDENTIAL

19:09:23 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS.

19:09:25 BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE DISCUSSED AT THIS EUCLIDEAN

19:09:28 REZONING.

19:09:28 I CAN SHOW YOU THE RM-16 REQUIREMENTS THAT'S IN YOUR

19:09:30 STAFF REPORT AS WELL SO IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE

19:09:32 SETBACKS.

19:09:33 >> IT'S 7 ON EACH SIDE.

19:09:36 >>RYAN MANASSE: MINIMUM LOCALITY WITH 50 ON THE FRONT.

19:09:39 MINIMUM SIDE SETBACK 7.

19:09:40 REAR SETBACK 15.

19:09:44 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT WHAT I AM STILL NOT HEARING, RYAN,

19:09:47 IS -- STAFF, WHAT I AM STILL NOT HEARING, CAN I BUILD ALL

19:09:53 THOSE UNITS AND THEN HAVE A SPACE BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT

19:09:56 NEIGHBOR AND NOT BUILD ALL THOSE UNITS JAMMED TOGETHER?

19:09:59 OR DO I HAVE -- OR DOES THE CODE REQUIRE TWO, TWO, TWO?

19:10:05 I KNOW IT'S NOT A PD.

19:10:06 BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS, I NEED A BETTER UNDERSTANDING

19:10:10 WHAT THE CODE ALLOWS.

19:10:11 IS IT TWO, TWO, TWO, SPACE, TWO, SPACE, TWO, SPACE?

19:10:16 OR FOUR OR EIGHT TOGETHER?

19:10:18 >> SO EIGHT MAX.

19:10:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: TOGETHER.

19:10:23 SO IT COULD BE ONE SOLID BUILDING?

19:10:25 >> CORRECT.

19:10:26 WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON DOING, EIGHT

19:10:28 UNITS.

19:10:29 SO THE CODE WOULD ALLOW IN A PERFECT WORLD ELEVEN UNITS.

19:10:33 >> WE ARE DOING LESS THAN THE CODE ALLOWS UNDER THE

19:10:35 RM-16.

19:10:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN THE EIGHT UNITS YOU ARE DOING, WHAT

19:10:39 I AM ASKING STAFF, THOSE EIGHT COULD BE JAMMED TOGETHER

19:10:41 IN ONE SOLID BUILDING.

19:10:42 >> CORRECT.

19:10:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

19:10:46 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

19:10:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DIDN'T HEAR THE ANSWER.

19:10:52 NOT DOING SINGLE FAMILY. WHY NOT?

19:10:54 >> WE FEEL IT'S A REALLY GOOD TRANSITION FROM THE

19:10:56 COMMERCIAL ON KENNEDY TO SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, AND THEN

19:11:00 UP TOTS REGULAR SINGLE-FAMILY.

19:11:02 IT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS LOOKING FOR.

19:11:04 WE ARE BUILDING THE DENSITY, THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH, TWO

19:11:10 CAR GARAGES, FOUR PARKING SPOTS.

19:11:11 SO WE FEEL THAT IT'S A REALLY GOOD TRANSITION FROM THE

19:11:14 COMMERCIAL TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY.

19:11:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ANYONE ELSE?

19:11:23 THANK YOU, SIR.

19:11:24 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 4?

19:11:26 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

19:11:28 >> ANDREW ONDRET.

19:11:34 I HAVE THE NUMBERS YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SEMINARS WHAT OAK

19:11:36 FORD PARK AS THE PRESIDENT FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, I

19:11:41 HAVE A THREE MONTE OLD AT HOME.

19:11:43 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, I THINK

19:11:46 YOU GUYS HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, IS PREDOMINANTLY

19:11:49 SINGLE-FAMILY ACTUALLY.

19:11:50 WE HAVE 620, 620 HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OKAY?

19:11:55 ADD THAT UP WITH THE VACANT PARCELS.

19:11:57 THAT'S 85% OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

19:12:01 THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS RESERVED FOR NORTH HYDE PARK

19:12:05 AND WESTSHORE.

19:12:07 THERE'S TONS OF PEOPLE IN HERE WEARING RED SHIRTS.

19:12:11 NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK TODAY BUT THE BACK HALF OF

19:12:13 THIS ROOM IS OAKFORD PARK.

19:12:16 AND I HAVE 32 NAMES OF PEOPLE RIGHT HERE THAT COULDN'T

19:12:18 COME TO THIS MEETING TODAY, OKAY, FOR VARIOUS REASONS,

19:12:21 THAT I WOULD LOVE TO PUT ON THE RECORD, AND THEY DON'T

19:12:23 MIND PUTTING THEIR NAME ON THE RECORD, TOO.

19:12:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I'M IN RECEIPT OF THIS

19:12:34 PETITION WHICH IS SIGNED AND DATED BY PEOPLE WHO SAY WE

19:12:37 AS HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE ORTHOPEDIC FORWARD PARK

19:12:40 NEIGHBORHOOD OBJECT TO THE REZONING REQUEST FOR

19:12:42 PROPERTIES LOCATE ON NORTH A STREET.

19:12:44 I REMIND COUNCIL FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD THAT A

19:12:46 PETITION SUCH AS THIS IS NOT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL

19:12:49 EVIDENCE, AND YOU CANNOT RELY ON THIS AS A BASIS FOR YOUR

19:12:54 DECISION, NOR CAN YOU RELY ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO

19:12:56 SHOW UP EITHER IN SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION.

19:13:00 THE COURTS FIND THAT IS NOT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL

19:13:03 EVIDENCE.

19:13:03 YOU ARE REQUIRED TO RELY ON THE FACTS THAT YOU HEAR IN

19:13:07 THE CASE OR THE EXPERT TESTIMONY IF YOU GET SUCH AS

19:13:11 CONTAINED WITHIN STAFF REPORT.

19:13:13 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.

19:13:14 CONTINUE SIR.

19:13:15 >> THE FACTS ARE RIGHT HERE IN WRITING.

19:13:17 THE PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, WE WANT TO KEEP

19:13:20 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, LIKE COUNCILMAN

19:13:24 DINGFELDER SAID, OKAY.

19:13:26 THIS IS PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

19:13:28 WE HAVE NO OBJECTION IF THEY WANT TO TEAR DOWN AN RS-50

19:13:33 AND BUILD ANOTHER RS-50, THAT'S WHAT PREDOMINANTLY IS

19:13:37 HAPPENING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:13:38 IT'S A GREAT THING.

19:13:39 IT'S ADDING MORE MONEY TO THE TAX ROLLS, PROVIDING

19:13:42 YOUNGER FAMILIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:13:44 WE ARE AGAINST THIS REZONING OF THESE PROPERTIES.

19:13:46 WE DON'T WANT IT ENCROACHING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:13:49 IT SHOULD BE THE SAME THING THAT YOU GUYS DID IN THE

19:13:51 WESTSHORE AREA.

19:13:52 REZONE FUTURE SLOTHS OF LAND AND PLAN FOR THIS.

19:13:56 BECAUSE IF YOU APPROVE THIS, IT'S GOING TO NOT STOP A

19:13:59 DEVELOPER FROM SAYING, OKAY, ONE, TWO, THREE HOUSE, NOW

19:14:02 LET'S BUILD EIGHT TOWNHOMES, OKAY?

19:14:04 AND THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:14:06 AGAIN I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SUBMIT THIS TO THE RECORD,

19:14:09 BUT I'LL SUBMIT THIS TOO.

19:14:12 THE GIS REPORT.

19:14:14 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

19:14:15 >> FURTHERMORE THE LAST THING THAT I WILL CLOSE WITH IS

19:14:18 THE PARKING OKAY.

19:14:20 FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND THEY ARE GOING TO BE USING THE

19:14:22 ALLEYWAY AS HE SAID, FOUR SPOTS, FOUR ADDITIONAL SPOTS.

19:14:25 WE DON'T HAVE ON-STREET PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:14:27 NOR CAN WE AFFORD IT.

19:14:29 AND THAT IS A BIG CONCERN BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS

19:14:31 ALREADY BEEN VASTLY OVERUSED, FOR THE TRANSIENT, BECAUSE

19:14:37 KENNEDY IS ALWAYS JACKED UP.

19:14:39 SO IS CYPRESS.

19:14:41 AND PEOPLE ARE CUTTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

19:14:43 SO IF WE HAVE ON-STREET PARKING, WHICH NORTH A IS NOT

19:14:46 MEANT AND BUILT FOR THAT, IT'S GOING TO FURTHER

19:14:48 EXACERBATE THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IN OUR AREA.

19:14:51 THANK YOU.

19:14:52 [BELL SOUNDS]

19:14:53 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:14:54 GOOD LUCK WITH THAT THREE MONTH OLD.

19:14:55 >> GOOD EVENING.

19:14:59 MY NAME IS JOHN MCDONAUGH, A RESIDENT IN OAK FORD PARK,

19:15:02 218 NORTH WOODLAND AVENUE.

19:15:06 I'M ASKING YOU TO DENY THE REQUEST.

19:15:07 WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES

19:15:09 AND NOT HAVE IT MULTIFAMILY HOMES.

19:15:13 IF THIS IS ALLOWED, THEN I COULD SELL MY TWO LOTS AND

19:15:16 BUILD OR ASK FOR EXPANSION OF MULTIPLE HOMES TO GO UP.

19:15:21 I THINK IF WE OPEN THIS CAN, IT WILL PERHAPS ALLOW OTHERS

19:15:25 TO COME IN, AND AGAIN HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE, DUPLEX,

19:15:29 DUPLEX, QUADPLEX, HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE.

19:15:32 THAT'S NOT WHAT IS CONSISTENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND

19:15:35 CURRENTLY THE WHOLE PERIPHERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:15:38 THANK YOU.

19:15:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.

19:15:42 YOU LIVE CLOSE TO NORTH A?

19:15:44 >> YES.

19:15:46 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

19:15:46 >> OPPOSITE END.

19:15:48 BLOCK FROM THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

19:15:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CAN YOU TESTIFY IN REGARD TO NEW

19:15:52 CONSTRUCTION, WHETHER OR NOT THERE HAVE BEEN NEW

19:15:58 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BUILT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF NORTH A IN

19:16:04 THE LAST, LET'S SAY, FIVE YEARS?

19:16:07 >> I CAN TESTIFY THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY NEW

19:16:11 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF NORTH A.

19:16:15 THERE HAVE BEEN RENOVATIONS, REMODELS, NEW DEVELOPMENT

19:16:20 IMMEDIATELY ADJOINING AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE

19:16:24 PLANNED SITE AND ALL ALONG NORTH A ON THE NORTH SIDE.

19:16:28 AND SPECIFICALLY THE STREET THAT IS WOODLAWN AVENUE, THE

19:16:36 MAJORITY OF THE HOMES ON THAT BLOCK ARE NEWLY DEVELOPED

19:16:38 AND PERHAPS THE VALUES WOULD DECREASE DUE TO MULTIFAMILY

19:16:42 HOMES ADJOINING OSHA BUTTING OR BEING AT THE END OF THE

19:16:45 STREET.

19:16:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT YOU ARE TESTIFYING IN YOUR

19:16:46 NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE TEAR-DOWNS THAT ARE BEING

19:16:50 REPLACED, OLDER HOMES THAT ARE BEING REPLACED WITH BRAND

19:16:53 NEW SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES?

19:16:55 >> THAT'S CORRECT.

19:16:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OKAY.

19:16:57 THANK YOU.

19:16:57 >> THANK YOU.

19:16:59 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:16:59 NEXT, PLEASE.

19:17:02 >> MY NAME IS JOHN SMOT, 3106 NORTH A DIRECTLY TO THE

19:17:09 EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

19:17:11 I HAVE HAD A BUSINESS THERE NOW FOR 27 YEARS, AND FIRST

19:17:14 OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER'S

19:17:17 COMMENT ABOUT NEW HOUSES THAT ARE COMING IN THE

19:17:19 NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:17:21 IN THE QUARTER CENTURY OR SO THAT I HAVE BEEN AT MY

19:17:24 BUSINESS, THERE'S BEEN A LARGE RESURGENCE OF NEW HOMES

19:17:28 COMING IN, AND YOUNG FAMILIES COMING IN.

19:17:31 AND AS I LEFT WORK THIS EVENING, THERE WERE YOUNG KIDS

19:17:34 PLAYING IN THE STREET, AND THERE'S GREAT RESURGENCE IN

19:17:40 THERE FROM WHAT YOU SEE OF SOME OF THOSE OLD SINGLE BLOCK

19:17:45 HOMES.

19:17:45 WE HAVE QUITE A FEW NEW HOMES.

19:17:47 MY BUSINESS IS A VIDEO PRODUCTION BUSINESS.

19:17:49 I RELY AND CHOSE MY PROPERTY FOR THE QUIET NATURE OF IT.

19:17:55 IT'S AWAY FROM THE AIRPORT, AWAY FROM A LOT OF OTHER

19:17:58 NOISES THAT IMPACT ME.

19:18:00 I RECORD IN MY STUDIO ON AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS, AND JUST

19:18:04 THE CONSTRUCTION ALONE OF SOMETHING RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME

19:18:08 WOULD PROBABLY PUT ME OUT OF BUSINESS FOR HOWEVER LONG IT

19:18:11 TAKES TO PUT THOSE THINGS UP AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL

19:18:13 NOISE FROM THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE

19:18:17 THERE.

19:18:18 I WOULD ALSO OPPOSE IT ON THE DENSITY ISSUE.

19:18:23 WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH?

19:18:24 WE DON'T HAVE WATER, SEWER, DRAINAGE, STORMWATER, YOU

19:18:29 NAME IT.

19:18:29 WE HAVE THOSE PROBLEMS IN SOUTH TAMPA.

19:18:31 AND ADDING ON TOP OF THAT A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH

19:18:34 THE PAVING AND ROOF AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF THAT'S GOING

19:18:37 TO BE THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:18:40 SO I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU TO DECLINE THIS

19:18:43 REQUEST.

19:18:44 THANK YOU.

19:18:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:18:45 NEXT, PLEASE.

19:18:46 >> MY NAME IS TIM HEALEY, 3120 WEST NORTH A STREET,

19:18:55 DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPERTY.

19:18:59 I OPPOSE THE REZONING.

19:19:01 AND FOR ME IT'S A DENSITY ISSUE.

19:19:03 I LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I'M IN.

19:19:05 I SENT IN AN E-MAIL EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON WITH MORE

19:19:09 SPECIFIC DETAILS.

19:19:11 I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AS BEING OPPOSED TO THE

19:19:13 REZONING.

19:19:14 THANK YOU.

19:19:15 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:19:16 NEXT, PLEASE.

19:19:16 >> GOOD EVENING.

19:19:23 I'M JACKSON MORRIS.

19:19:24 I'M THE OWNER OF 3116 WEST NORTH A STREET.

19:19:28 THE SECOND PROPERTY.

19:19:29 AND THE VACANT LAND NEXT TO IT.

19:19:32 MY DAD STARTED ACCUMULATING THIS PARCEL IN 1948.

19:19:38 IT HAS A LAND USE DESIGNATION OF MU 60 WHICH IS ELIGIBLE

19:19:42 FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

19:19:43 THE ENTIRE BLOCK EXCEPT FOR MR. HEALEY'S RESIDENCE NEXT

19:19:48 DOOR TO THE WEST IS ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT THIS

19:19:50 POINT.

19:19:51 AND I BELIEVE THAT DEVELOPMENT INTO EIGHT UNITS ON THE

19:19:57 PROPERTY IS SUITABLE TRANSITION.

19:20:02 THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER HOMES TORN DOWN IN THE

19:20:05 NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:20:06 IN FACT, IN THE BLOCK ON WOODLAWN AND DIRECTLY ACROSS THE

19:20:12 STREET WHERE THERE'S ONLY ONE HOME.

19:20:13 I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.

19:20:15 BUT TWO HOMES HAVE BEEN BUILT IN PLACE OF THE SINGLE

19:20:19 RESIDENCE.

19:20:20 I THINK THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HERE IS ENTIRELY

19:20:24 APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DOES MAKE A NICE

19:20:27 TRANSITION FROM THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ON WEST KENNEDY

19:20:31 AND THE REMAINDER OF THIS BLOCK INTO THE SINGLE-FAMILY

19:20:34 NATURE OF BALANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:20:38 THANK YOU.

19:20:39 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:20:40 NEXT, PLEASE.

19:20:41 AND JUST TO CONFIRM, IS THIS GENTLEMAN COMING UP THE LAST

19:20:44 PERSON WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4?

19:20:47 >> NO.

19:20:47 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

19:20:49 >> I GUESS WE HAVE MORE.

19:20:52 GOOD EVENING.

19:20:53 YEAH, I'M ONE OF THE -- MY NAME IS CLARK ISBONN, AT THE

19:20:59 INTERSECTION OF NORTH B WHICH IS ONE BLOCK TO THE NORTH

19:21:01 OF NORTH A.

19:21:02 AND I GUESS I AM ONE OF THE NEW FAMILIES THAT ARE MOVING

19:21:05 TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:21:05 I HAVE BEEN THERE FOR FIVE YEARS NOW AND I JUST WANTED TO

19:21:07 GO ON RECORD TO ASK THAT YOU DECLINE THE REQUEST FOR THE

19:21:10 REZONING FOR A HANDFUL OF REASONS BUT MOST NOTABLY I

19:21:14 THINK WOULD BE THE DENSITY WHICH IS CERTAINLY A CONCERN

19:21:16 FOR US.

19:21:18 I HAVE RECENTLY A YOUNG CHILD THAT STARTED ELEMENTARY

19:21:21 SCHOOL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SO WE ARE FREQUENTLY

19:21:22 WALKING THERE, AND I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A

19:21:25 SIGNIFICANT CONCERN AMONG MOST OF THE FOLKS IN THE

19:21:27 NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE INFLUX OF TRAFFIC.

19:21:29 CERTAINLY WITH MIDTOWN COMING IN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE

19:21:31 NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:21:32 IT'S REALLY NOT THE MOST PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENTS

19:21:35 THERE.

19:21:35 SO WE CERTAINLY HATE TO PUT MY FAMILY AT RISK AS A RESULT

19:21:39 OF SOME OF THESE GROWING RESIDENCES AND SO FORTH.

19:21:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WERE YOU DONE?

19:21:44 >> YES, I'M THROUGH.

19:21:45 THANK YOU.

19:21:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU HAVE GOT FIVE YEARS OF HISTORY A

19:21:49 BLOCK AWAY.

19:21:49 >> I'M NEW, YES.

19:21:52 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY

19:21:54 AND CONSISTENCY, THE POTENTIAL, POTENTIAL BUILDING THAT'S

19:22:00 BEEN DESCRIBED THERE IS AN 8-UNIT STRUCTURE, AND ALL

19:22:05 TOGETHER POTENTIALLY.

19:22:09 THEY COULD CHOOSE THE SPACE BUT THE POTENTIAL IS THERE

19:22:12 FOR THAT.

19:22:13 AND IN REGARD TO THE MASS AND SIZE AND SCALE OF THAT.

19:22:17 IS THERE ANY PRECEDENT FOR THAT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT

19:22:20 YOU CAN PICTURE ON NORTH A, NORTH B, THE CROSS STREETS OR

19:22:24 ANYTHING ELSE?

19:22:24 >> NOT TO ME.

19:22:25 THAT'S OAK FORD PARK NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE CONFINES OF

19:22:29 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:22:30 I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE -- I THINK I HAVE SEEN SOME MAPS

19:22:33 THAT KIND OF OUTLINE THIS BUT I THINK THE OUTLINE THAT WE

19:22:36 SUBMITTED PREVIOUSLY SHOWS THERE ARE NOT TO THAT DEGREE

19:22:40 IN THAT VICINITY.

19:22:42 TO MY KNOWLEDGE ANYHOW.

19:22:43 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:22:44 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:22:48 NEXT, PLEASE.

19:22:51 AND JUST SO THAT WE KNOW, THIS GENTLEMAN OVER HERE IN THE

19:22:55 RED SHIRT AFTER HIM, IS ANYONE ELSE PLANNING ON SPEAKING?

19:22:58 YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SPEAK.

19:22:59 I JUST WANT TO KNOW.

19:23:02 GO AHEAD, SIR.

19:23:02 >> I AM DAVID ROBERTS.

19:23:04 I AM AT 212 NORTH MATANZAS, JUST NORTHWEST OF THE

19:23:10 PROPOSED PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.

19:23:12 I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY DISAPPROVAL AND HOPE THAT YOU

19:23:18 WOULD DENY THE REQUEST FROM THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY

19:23:23 TO MULTIFAMILY.

19:23:26 I BUILT MY HOUSE, A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE, IN THAT AREA

19:23:31 SEVEN YEARS AGO.

19:23:32 SINCE THAT TIME, I HAVE SEEN -- I'M SORRY, IN 2007.

19:23:37 SINCE THAT TIME, I HAVE SEEN LIKE YOU HAD MENTIONED A

19:23:40 SIGNIFICANT RESURGENCE IN THAT AREA.

19:23:43 AND YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL SUCCESS OF, SAY,

19:23:50 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF NORTH A IN

19:23:54 THAT VICINITY.

19:23:55 YOU WERE CORRECT, THAT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T BELIEVE

19:23:58 THERE HAVE BEEN TOO MANY SINGLE-FAMILY SALES ON THE SOUTH

19:24:01 SIDE OF NORTH A WITHIN THE SPECIFIC AREA OF OAKFORD PARK.

19:24:06 HOWEVER, OAKFORD PARK IS A SMALL SECTION WITHIN THAT

19:24:12 ENTIRE KENNEDY BOULEVARD AREA.

19:24:13 IF YOU GO IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST ON THE MacDILL,

19:24:16 WHERE YOU HAVE SEEN AN EARLIER RESURGENCE OF THE

19:24:20 SINGLE-FAMILY PROPERTIES, YOU WILL SEE SEVERAL SUCCESSFUL

19:24:23 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES THAT HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN AND

19:24:26 REBUILT SIMILARLY TO THE WEST OF OUR AREA.

19:24:30 OUR AREA WAS A LITTLE LATER IN THAT RESURGENCE.

19:24:34 WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH A GOOD NICE FAMILY AREA.

19:24:39 AND LIKE YOU HAD MENTIONED, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY

19:24:42 GOOD REASON FOR A MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY.

19:24:46 IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE REST OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD,

19:24:49 THERE ARE NO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES TO MY KNOWLEDGE IN

19:24:54 THAT IMMEDIATE AREA ALONG NORTH A.

19:24:56 YOU DO NOT NEED THAT TYPE OF BUFFER.

19:24:59 THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS YOU HAVE AN

19:25:02 ALLEY SEPARATION, AND THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALL

19:25:06 SINGLE-FAMILY.

19:25:11 MY OBVIOUS CONCERNS WOULD BE.

19:25:13 LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, PARKING, DENSITY, TRAFFIC.

19:25:16 IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM ON NORTH A, NORTH B AND GRAY.

19:25:20 IT'S EXACTLY WHY YOU JUST REDID ALL OF THE HIMES TRAFFIC

19:25:22 TO AVOID THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY AND TRAFFIC IN OUR AREA

19:25:26 BY PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES IN THIS

19:25:30 VERY SAME LOCATION.

19:25:31 YOU ARE ALMOST NEGATING EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST WERE

19:25:35 PUSHING FOR.

19:25:37 THANK YOU.

19:25:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

19:25:39 >> MY NAME IS DINO MARVELLA, 506 NORTH WOODLAND AVENUE

19:25:50 BETWEEN TRASK AND GRAY ONE BLOCK WEST OF MacDILL.

19:25:55 I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 4 YEARS. I BOUGHT THE HOUSE WHEN I

19:25:56 WAS 20 YEARS OLD.

19:25:58 I DON'T PLAN TO LEAVE THE AREA.

19:25:59 IT'S BEEN GREAT.

19:26:01 THE THING IS, THIS IS NOT GOING TO FIT IN THIS AREA.

19:26:04 JUST LIKE MR. MIRANDA HAD SAID EARLIER EVEN THOUGH IT'S A

19:26:07 DIFFERENT PROJECT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

19:26:08 WE LET THIS IN HERE AND IT'S JUST GOING TO CONTINUE.

19:26:11 THEY ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START GOING ALL THE WAY

19:26:13 AROUND THE PERIMETERS.

19:26:14 GO AHEAD AND TRY TO SQUEEZE THESE IN.

19:26:17 LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S BEEN GOOD AND BAD.

19:26:19 IT'S BEEN REAL GOOD THAT WE ARE GETTING YOUNGBLOOD IN

19:26:22 THERE, YOUNG FAMILIES IN THERE.

19:26:23 MY KIDS NOW 33, 35.

19:26:25 WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALL THROUGH THAT.

19:26:27 YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM THAT I SEE IN THE FUTURE, LIKE I

19:26:31 SAID, WITH THIS PARTICULAR THING HERE IS YOU ARE GOING TO

19:26:34 GO AHEAD AND SAY, HEY, IT WORKED, LET'S PUT A UNIT OVER

19:26:37 HERE, AND THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THESE LITTLE AREAS

19:26:40 ESPECIALLY ON THE PERIMETER.

19:26:41 THE MIDTOWN PROJECT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING

19:26:43 TO GET WITH TRAFFIC WHEN WE GET THAT THING.

19:26:45 THE OTHER THING IS, IN THE AREA NOW, THE ONLY THING I

19:26:48 DON'T LIKE, WHEN YOU DO ONE HOUSE FOR ONE HOUSE I HAVE NO

19:26:51 PROBLEM WITH TAKING IT DOWN. BUT NOW WE ARE STARTING TO

19:26:53 GET THESE PEOPLE DOMAIN, PERFECT EXAMPLES, THEY ARE BIKE

19:26:57 THESE CORNER LOTS AND PUTTING TWO TO THREE HOUSES ON

19:26:59 THERE AND SQUEEZING IT IN THERE AND DENSITY STARTING TO

19:27:02 GET OUTRAGEOUS IN THE AREA.

19:27:04 TRAFFIC IS GOING CRAZY AND YOU CAN TELL TRAFFIC AROUND

19:27:06 THE PERIMETERS.

19:27:07 SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW.

19:27:10 BUT LIKE I SAY, IT'S CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.

19:27:13 AND LIKE I SAID, I LOVE THE YOUNG FAMILIES NOW.

19:27:16 BUT IT'S STARTING TO GETS A LITTLE CRAZY.

19:27:19 THANK YOU.

19:27:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

19:27:23 ANYONE ELSE?

19:27:23 OKAY.

19:27:23 REBUTTAL IF YOU WISH.

19:27:25 >> THANK YOU.

19:27:29 I GUESS I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT I JUST

19:27:34 HEARD.

19:27:35 ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN SAID ABOUT PARKING IN THE ALLEYWAY.

19:27:39 WELL, WE WILL HAVE 32 TOTAL PARKING SPOTS.

19:27:42 EACH UNIT WILL HAVE A TWO-CAR GARAGE PLUS A DRIVEWAY.

19:27:45 SO THESE ARE FRONT LOADS.

19:27:47 THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF PARKING.

19:27:49 WE ARE NOT USING THE ALLEY FOR PARKING.

19:27:53 THEY ARE NOT CONDOS.

19:27:54 THEY ARE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.

19:27:57 THEY ARE OWNED FEE SIMPLE, OKAY.

19:27:59 THERE'S NOT A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

19:28:01 THEY ARE FEE SIMPLE.

19:28:01 THIS IS GOING TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE YOUNG

19:28:04 FAMILIES TO MOVE IN.

19:28:07 THE PLAN WANTS MORE DENSITY.

19:28:09 WE THINK WE ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY WANTS US TO

19:28:12 DO.

19:28:13 THE CITY STAFF AGREES WITH WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.

19:28:16 WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING -- WE THINK THIS WILL

19:28:20 INCREASE THE VALUE OF ALL THE HOMES IN THE AREA.

19:28:22 WE ARE GOING TO BUILD NEW BEAUTIFUL HOMES.

19:28:29 SO AGAIN I GUESS I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT.

19:28:32 YOU KNOW THE CITY.

19:28:34 AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH

19:28:36 THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

19:28:39 AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS HOPE THAT THEY WILL BE VERY

19:28:43 HAPPY WITH WHAT TURNS OUT.

19:28:46 THANK YOU.

19:28:47 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:28:51 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: JUST A QUICK TECHNICAL QUESTION.

19:28:53 I DON'T THINK IT'S PROBABLY MORE TOWARDS STAFF.

19:28:56 WHAT IS THE HEIGHT FOR HATE POTENTIAL?

19:29:01 $35.

19:29:02 >>RYAN MANASSE: 35.

19:29:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SAME AS SINGLE-FAMILY.

19:29:06 >>RYAN MANASSE: CORRECT.

19:29:08 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?

19:29:09 MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

19:29:10 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

19:29:12 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

19:29:13 ALL IN FAVOR?

19:29:15 WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?

19:29:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO

19:29:22 DENY THE APPLICATION REZ 19-107, AND I BASE THAT ON

19:29:32 FAILURE TO MEET CERTAIN LAND USE POLICIES, AND I WILL

19:29:35 BEGIN WITH LAND USE POLICY 9.1.2 WHICH IS ENCOURAGE

19:29:40 SENSITIVE DESIGN AND SITE PLAN IN URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS

19:29:43 THAT MITIGATE THE SCALE OF LARGER BUILDINGS THROUGH

19:29:45 CAREFUL USE OF BUILDING MASS SETBACKS, FACADE,

19:29:48 ARTICULATION, FENESTRATION, PAR A PETS, AND ARCHITECTURAL

19:29:53 DETAILS, LAND USE OBJECTIVE 9.3, COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT

19:29:57 AND REDEVELOPMENT TO SUSTAIN STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND

19:29:59 ENSURE THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH OF THE CITY.

19:30:04 AND I WOULD LEAVE IT AT THAT.

19:30:06 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

19:30:06 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU WANT TO SPECIFICALLY REFER TO

19:30:10 ANY TESTIMONY THAT YOU HEARD RELATING TO THAT SUPPORTS

19:30:14 THAT POSITION?

19:30:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T BELIEVE THE APPLICANT PUT

19:30:24 ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THEIR CLAIM TO SUPPORT THE

19:30:29 APPLICATION IN GENERAL.

19:30:30 THEREFORE THAT'S WHY I STATE THESE SPECIFIC LAND USE

19:30:33 POLICIES.

19:30:33 I FEEL THAT THEY FAILED TO MEET THAT.

19:30:36 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

19:30:39 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL SECOND THE MOTION AND ADD

19:30:41 FRIENDLY COMMENTS TO THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IF HE

19:30:44 DESIRES.

19:30:45 BUT SPECIFICALLY CITING TO THE TESTIMONY THAT WE HEARD

19:30:51 UNCONTROVERTED TESTIMONY AS TO COMPATIBILITY.

19:30:56 THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT AT LEAST WE HAVE TESTIMONY

19:30:59 FROM THE FIRST PERSON WHO CAME UP THAT DID A CALCULATION,

19:31:04 AND I HOPE THAT GOT SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD, BUT 85% OF

19:31:09 HIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS SINGLE-FAMILY.

19:31:11 I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE QUESTION, AND THE ONLY RESPONSE

19:31:14 I GOT WAS FROM THE NEIGHBORS IN OPPOSITION AS RELATED TO

19:31:20 OTHER MULTIFAMILY UP AND DOWN THAT AREA AND THAT STREET,

19:31:28 AND WE ARE NOT SEEING THAT.

19:31:32 THIS PROJECT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING

19:31:35 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

19:31:39 AND I APPRECIATE THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.

19:31:41 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS

19:31:44 MOTION?

19:31:45 OKAY.

19:31:46 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MANISCALCO.

19:31:48 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

19:31:50 ALL IN FAVOR?

19:31:51 ANY OPPOSED?

19:31:52 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

19:31:57 >>LUIS VIERA: WE MOVE NOW TO ITEM NUMBER 55.

19:32:02 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

19:32:04 COORDINATION.

19:32:08 ITEM NUMBER 5 IS REZ 19-109.

19:32:13 3903, 3909 AND 3911 EAST 15th AVENUE FROM RESIDENTIAL

19:32:18 MULTIFAMILY 16, RM-16 TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24,

19:32:22 RM-24.

19:32:22 >> PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

19:32:42 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

19:32:42 THE NEXT CASE IS IN THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD IN

19:32:46 THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT.

19:32:47 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY TO TRANSIT.

19:32:50 THERE'S A TRANSIT STOP AT THE CORNER OF EAST 19th

19:32:52 STREET AND 40TH STREET.

19:32:54 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS HIGHLIGHTS PARK

19:32:59 WHICH IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY A HALF MAIL TO THE

19:33:00 NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

19:33:02 THE SUBJECT SITE IS IN A LEVEL E EVACUATION ZONE.

19:33:17 THIS IS AN AERIAL.

19:33:18 THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE SHOWN HERE OUTLINED IN PURPLE.

19:33:21 EAST 15th AVENUE ONE BLOCK TO THE NORTH IS EAST

19:33:24 COLUMBUS.

19:33:24 AND THEN THIS IS NORTH 40TH STREET THAT RUNS NORTH TO

19:33:29 SOUTH.

19:33:34 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

19:33:36 YOU WILL SEE THE SITES, 24 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.

19:33:40 IT'S SURROUNDED BY TU-24 ON ALL SIDES.

19:33:44 THERE IS SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FURTHER TO THE EAST.

19:33:47 AND THEN TO THE WEST OF THE SITE, JUST NORTH OF COLUMBUS,

19:33:51 YOU WILL SEE SOME COMMERCIAL 35 SHOWN IN RED AND THEN

19:33:57 FURTHER NORTH IN THE BLOOD PRESSURE IS THE PUBLIC

19:34:00 SEMI-PUBLIC LAND USE CATEGORY.

19:34:09 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND

19:34:11 FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, PLAN UP TO

19:34:16 24 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

19:34:17 THE REQUEST HAS BEEN IN THE POLICIES AND THE

19:34:20 COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AS RELATES TO HOUSING IN THE CITY'S

19:34:23 POPULATION.

19:34:23 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT AND

19:34:25 RETENTION OF A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES TO MEET THE

19:34:28 NEEDS OF TAMPA'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.

19:34:32 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS THE PLANNING COMMISSION

19:34:34 STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA

19:34:36 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

19:34:37 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:34:38 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

19:34:50 THIS IS EUCLIDEAN THEREFORE THERE ARE NO WAIVERS

19:34:52 PERMITTED UNDER THIS APPLICATION.

19:34:53 THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AT 39050,

19:34:59 3909 AND 3911 EAST 15th AVENUE TO ALLOW FOR THE

19:35:03 DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY WITH RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY

19:35:04 USES.

19:35:07 THE POINT 92-ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF EAST

19:35:10 15th AVENUE BETWEEN NORTH 38th STREET AND NORTH

19:35:13 40TH STREET.

19:35:16 TWO OF THE THREE PARCELS IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A

19:35:19 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT.

19:35:24 AS I PUT THE AERIAL UP, THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY

19:35:27 WAREHOUSE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND VACANT

19:35:29 UNDEVELOPED LAND TO THE NORTH AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND

19:35:33 RM-18 ZONING DISTRICTS, INTERSTATE 4 TO THE SOUTH AND

19:35:37 RM-16 ZONING DISTRICT, VACANT UNDEVELOPED LAND TO THE

19:35:41 EAST AND RM-16 ZONING DISTRICT.

19:35:43 AND SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST IN THE RM-16

19:35:46 ZONING DISTRICT.

19:35:48 THE DEVELOPMENT MUST ADHERE TO ALL APPLICABLE CITY OF

19:35:51 TAMPA DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AT TIME OF PERMITTING

19:35:53 INCLUDING REQUIRED USE TO USE BUFFERING.

19:35:55 THERE WERE NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN A

19:35:58 THOUSAND FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

19:36:00 I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES.

19:36:08 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE, 3915.

19:36:11 THIS IS THE CLOSEST NEIGHBOR.

19:36:19 THE SECOND ADDRESS UNDER THIS PETITION, 3909 EAST

19:36:24 15th.

19:36:25 3911 EAST 15th AVENUE.

19:36:27 3909-15th AVENUE.

19:36:35 THIS IS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, SINGLE-FAMILY

19:36:35 HOME. THIS IS A PICTURE OF 3902, 04, 06 ON THE NORTH

19:36:39 SIDE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

19:36:42 THIS IS THE OTHER NORTH NEIGHBOR.

19:36:45 AND THE IG ZONING DISTRICT.

19:36:48 YOU LOOK ON YOUR MAP, RIGHT HERE.

19:36:51 THE NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST.

19:36:55 NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY TO THE WEST.

19:36:56 THIS IS EAST ON 15th AVENUE.

19:37:00 THE SUBJECT SITE.

19:37:01 OVER HERE.

19:37:02 AND THIS IS WEST ALONG 15th AVENUE.

19:37:09 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE

19:37:11 APPLICATION AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF

19:37:12 TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES.

19:37:14 STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

19:37:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:37:18 ANY QUESTIONS?

19:37:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:37:21 APPLICANT, PLEASE.

19:37:22 >> PAMELA JO HATLEY, 14517 NORTH 18th STREET, AND I

19:37:33 HAVE BEEN SWORN.

19:37:33 I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

19:37:36 SO THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY ZONED FOR MULTIFAMILY, RM-16.

19:37:41 THE REQUEST IS TO ZONE IT TO RM-24 TO ALLOW A FEW MORE

19:37:47 UNITS WHICH WOULD MAKE IT A MORE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE

19:37:51 PROJECT.

19:37:54 THE DENSITY IS ALLOWED UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,

19:37:58 FUTURE LAND USE MAP, DESIGNATION OF TU-24.

19:38:02 THERE ARE EXISTING HOMES ON THE PROPERTY AS WAS STATED.

19:38:12 IS IT SHOWING UP OR IS IT UPSIDE DOWN?

19:38:15 BACKWARDS.

19:38:16 HOW ABOUT THAT?

19:38:17 OKAY.

19:38:22 THE PARCELS ARE HERE, THESE THREE PARCELS.

19:38:24 AND THE HOMES ON-SITE ARE -- ONE OF THEM IS 1160 SQUARE

19:38:32 FEET BUILT IN 1925.

19:38:35 768 SQUARE FEET BUILT IN 1958.

19:38:39 AND 1370 SQUARE FEET BUILT IN 1955.

19:38:44 SO THEY ARE AGING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.

19:38:47 THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST HAS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, 1214

19:38:54 SQUARE FEET BUILT IN 1949.

19:38:57 THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST

19:38:59 HAS 1176 SQUARE FEET, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BUILT IN 1974.

19:39:06 AND THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IS 768 SQUARE FEET BUILT IN

19:39:13 1958.

19:39:15 AND THIS ONE IS A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME BUILT IN 1961, 1529

19:39:20 SQUARE FEET.

19:39:22 THESE TWO ARE VACANT.

19:39:23 AND THIS ONE IS VACANT.

19:39:26 THIS WHOLE AREA IN HERE IS ZONED RM-16.

19:39:31 AND THEN ON THE PERIMETERS ARE SOME INDUSTRIAL ZONED

19:39:35 PROPERTIES.

19:39:42 THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A REDEVELOPMENT OF

19:39:44 RESIDENTIAL, AGAIN THE EXISTING ZONING ALLOWS

19:39:48 MULTIFAMILY, BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REDEVELOPMENT

19:39:52 TO, WELL, TO BRING IN SOME NEW HOUSING BASICALLY, AND TO

19:39:59 REPLACE AGING HOMES THAT ARE AT THE END OF THEIR USEFUL

19:40:05 LIFE.

19:40:09 AS I STATED, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION TU-24

19:40:13 DOESN'T ALLOW THE DENSITY, AND ALSO THE TU-24 ALLOWS FOR

19:40:18 A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT

19:40:21 INDUSTRIAL.

19:40:22 SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT.

19:40:25 TU-24 USUALLY IS FOUND IN HISTORIC URBAN AREAS SUCH AS

19:40:29 THIS, THAT DEVELOPED BEFORE THE ZONING CODES.

19:40:33 AND THE REZONING WOULD ALLOW, AS I SAID, A MORE

19:40:39 ECONOMICALLY VIABLE PROJECT TO ALLOW JUST A FEW MORE

19:40:44 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

19:40:47 IN FACT THE REZONING WOULD ALLOW PRECISELY WHAT THE LAND

19:40:50 USE DESIGNATION CONTEMPLATES, A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL,

19:40:54 COMMERCIAL, AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.

19:40:56 IT WILL MAINTAIN THAT MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL

19:41:00 AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WHILE PROVIDING SO MUCH NEEDED

19:41:03 HOUSING, AND PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA WORKFORCE HOUSING.

19:41:08 THE SITE IS CLOSE TO JOB SENSORS SO THERE ARE BUSINESSES

19:41:12 AND POTENTIAL EMPLOYMENT CLOSE BY.

19:41:15 THE SITE IS ONLY .3-MILE FROM A TRANSIT STOP, AND THAT

19:41:20 TRANSIT STOP IS SERVED BY BUS ROUTES THAT CONNECT THE

19:41:23 SITE TO DOWNTOWN AND ALSO TO THE UNIVERSITY AREA.

19:41:26 SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO WORK, TO LIVE AND

19:41:29 WORK IN THE AREA, AND ALSO TO TAKE TRANSIT TO OTHER AREAS

19:41:34 TO WORK AND GO TO SCHOOL.

19:41:37 AGAIN, IT'S AN UNDERDEVELOPED AREA, UNDERDEVELOPED

19:41:42 PARCELS.

19:41:43 SO IT WILL REPLACE AGING SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WITH NEW

19:41:47 MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IN AN URBAN AREA WHERE HOUSING IS

19:41:51 DESPERATELY NEEDED.

19:41:52 IT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE STABILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD

19:41:55 BY PROVIDING SUSTAINABLE, SAFE, MODERN WORKFORCE HOUSING

19:42:00 IN AN AREA THAT IS SURROUNDED BY BUSINESSES AND JOBS AND

19:42:05 NEAR TRANSIT TO GET TO OTHER JOB CENTERS AND SCHOOLS.

19:42:09 IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH AND SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD

19:42:11 AND APPROPRIATE -- IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE WHERE THE

19:42:15 SURROUNDING ZONING WOULD ALSO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY HOMES.

19:42:21 WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE STATEMENT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S

19:42:23 REPORT THAT THE SITE MIGHT BE BETTER SUITED FOR

19:42:26 INDUSTRIAL USES.

19:42:27 HOWEVER, THESE ARE SMALL PARCELS, AND THEY ARE NOT WELL

19:42:32 SUITED, AT LEAST INDIVIDUALLY FOR INDUSTRIAL USES, AND

19:42:36 THEY ARE ALL INDIVIDUALLY OWNED BY DIFFERENT OWNERS.

19:42:41 AND SO WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IF THEY WERE DEVELOPED AS

19:42:45 COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL USES THAT THAT WOULD REALLY

19:42:49 UNDERMINE THE MYTHS THAT THE TU-24 LAND USE CONTEMPLATES.

19:42:55 AS I SAID THE TU-24 DOES CONTEMPLATE A MIXTURE OF USES.

19:42:59 AND WOULD HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE

19:43:02 EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE IN THIS LITTLE

19:43:09 NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:43:10 SO THE MULTIFAMILY USE IS BETTER SUITED AND WOULD BETTER

19:43:13 STABILIZE AND MAINTAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE MIXTURE

19:43:15 OF USES ALLOWED BY TU-24.

19:43:19 SPECIFICALLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITE TO

19:43:25 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES, LAND USE POLICY 1.1.1 WHICH

19:43:29 RECOGNIZES THE CENTRAL TAMPA DISTRICT AND THE MIXED YOUTH

19:43:33 USE DEVELOPMENT AND URBAN LIFESTYLE THERE.

19:43:36 LAND USE OBJECTIVE 9.3, WHICH CALLS FOR SUSTAINABLE

19:43:41 NEIGHBORHOODS AND SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC HEALTH OF THE CITY.

19:43:46 LAND USE OBJECTIVE 9.6 TO INCREASE THE DENSITY AND

19:43:52 IMPROVE THE SUSTAINABILITIES OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL

19:43:54 AREAS.

19:43:57 LAND USE POLICY 9 POINT 6.1 ENCOURAGES THE DEVELOPMENT

19:44:00 AND RETENTION OF A DIVERSITY OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING TYPES

19:44:04 TO MEET THE CITY'S PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.

19:44:08 LAND USE POLICY 9.6.2 WHICH PROMOTES A RESIDENTIAL

19:44:13 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPACT CITY

19:44:16 FORUM STRATEGY, AND INCREASED AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING, OF

19:44:20 DENSITIES THAT PROMOTE WALKING AND TRANSIT USE NEAR

19:44:24 EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.

19:44:25 THERE'S ALSO POLICIES IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, HOUSING

19:44:29 OBJECTIVE 1.3 ENCOURAGING THE ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING

19:44:33 THAT'S AVAILABLE TO MEET THE CITY'S NEEDS.

19:44:35 HOUSING POLICY 1.3.1 DESIGNATING SUFFICIENT LAND FOR

19:44:40 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO ACCOMMODATE TAMPA'S SHARE OF

19:44:43 REGIONAL HOUSING -- HOUSEHOLD GROWTH.

19:44:46 HOUSING POLICY 1.3.3, MONITOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT

19:44:51 TO ENSURE THERE ARE ADEQUATE SITES TO ACCOMMODATE DEMAND.

19:44:55 AND FINALLY, POLICY 1.3.4 ENCOURAGING NEW HOUSING OR

19:45:00 VACANT IN-FILL OR UNDERUTILIZED LAND, WHICH THIS IS

19:45:04 UNDERUTILIZED.

19:45:05 AND HOUSING POLICY 1.3.6, CONTINUE TO DEVELOP A

19:45:10 COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY FOR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE

19:45:12 HOUSING SERVING MODERATE TO MIDDLE INCOME WORKERS IN

19:45:15 TAMPA.

19:45:18 SO WITH THAT WE REQUEST THAT THE CITY APPROVE THIS

19:45:23 REZONING TO RM-24, AND I'M HEAR FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE

19:45:29 THEM.

19:45:29 ALSO, MATTHEW NORMAN WITH VAUGHAN'S ENGINEERING, OUR

19:45:33 ENGINEERING FIRM IS HERE, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE

19:45:37 IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

19:45:38 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

19:45:38 ANY QUESTIONS?

19:45:41 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

19:45:42 ANYBODY HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 5?

19:45:46 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

19:45:47 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

19:45:49 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:45:51 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?

19:45:53 ANY OPPOSED?

19:45:55 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:45:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SHE SAID THE WORD AGING.

19:45:59 I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSES.

19:46:01 >> DEFINITELY.

19:46:03 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.

19:46:04 CHAIRMAN, I MOVE FILE 5, REZ 19-109, ORDINANCE BEING

19:46:09 PRESENTED FOR FIRST READ BEING CONSIDERATION, AN

19:46:11 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

19:46:14 3905, 3909, 3911 EAST 15TH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,

19:46:19 FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM

19:46:23 ZONING CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO

19:46:26 RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

19:46:28 DATE.

19:46:28 >> SECOND.

19:46:29 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:46:31 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

19:46:32 ALL IN FAVOR?

19:46:34 ANY OPPOSED?

19:46:34 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

19:46:39 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION -- MOTION CARRIED WITH

19:46:48 DINGFELDER BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.

19:46:50 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 6,

19:46:53 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

19:46:56 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

19:46:57 NEXT WE MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 6.

19:46:58 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ITEM NUMBER 6, REZ 19-56, A REZONING

19:47:07 REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 302 EAST 7TH AVENUE

19:47:11 FROM RM-24 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR ATTACHED

19:47:14 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

19:47:15 >> DANNY COLLINS WITH YOU'RE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

19:47:34 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

19:47:36 OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT

19:47:38 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:47:42 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT.

19:47:46 THERE'S A TRANSIT STOP AT THE CORNER OF WEST PALM AVENUE

19:47:48 AND NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.

19:47:50 THE CLOSEST RECREATION FACILITY IS FERNANDO MESA PARK

19:47:57 APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER MAIL NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

19:47:59 THE SITE IS NOT IN AN EVACUATION ZONE.

19:48:03 THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING

19:48:06 PROPERTIES.

19:48:07 IT'S HARD TO SEE BUT THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE.

19:48:09 IT'S OUTLINED IN THE COLOR PURPLE.

19:48:12 THIS IS WEST 7th AVENUE.

19:48:16 AND THEN GOING NORTH TO SOUTH HERE IS NORTH MORGAN

19:48:20 STREET.

19:48:21 THIS IS INTERSTATE 275 NORTH.

19:48:25 RUNNING TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

19:48:31 THIS IS THE ADOPTIVE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

19:48:34 THE SITE SHOWN HERE AND OUTLINED FROM PURPLE.

19:48:37 IT'S IN THE RESIDENTIAL 83 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY WHICH

19:48:41 IS ONE OF THE HIGHER MORE INTENSIVE RESIDENTIAL

19:48:44 CATEGORIES.

19:48:45 IT'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL 83 ON ALL SIDES.

19:48:48 JUST TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE YOU WILL SEE SOME CC

19:48:51 35 WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE COLOR OF RED.

19:48:54 AND THEN TO THE NORTH YOU WILL SEE SOME TRANSITION

19:48:58 RESIDENTIAL 35.

19:49:01 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION

19:49:03 AND FOUND NO ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING

19:49:06 NEIGHBORHOOD.

19:49:06 THE REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN

19:49:09 AN AREA PLANNED FOR UP TO 83 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

19:49:13 THE REQUEST FURTHER POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN

19:49:18 THAT RELATES TO HOUSING IN THE CITY'S POPULATION.

19:49:20 THE PLAN ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT AND RETENTION AND

19:49:23 DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S

19:49:26 PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.

19:49:28 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF

19:49:30 FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

19:49:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

19:49:37 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

19:49:45 COORDINATION.

19:49:47 AGAIN, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY RM-24 AND

19:49:53 THEY ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR

19:49:58 ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY, A TOTAL OF 15 DWELLING UNITS.

19:50:01 THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE VERY CORNER OF THE TAMPA

19:50:06 HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT.

19:50:09 AND I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU A MAP, A ZONING MAP.

19:50:13 I'M SORRY, AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

19:50:19 THE SURROUNDING AREA.

19:50:31 AND THIS AREA ENCOMPASSES THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC

19:50:35 DISTRICT. THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE EDGE.

19:50:38 IT'S CURRENTLY AN UNDERUTILIZED PARKING LOT.

19:50:43 AND THEY WILL MAKE A FULL PRESENTATION WHEN I CONCLUDE.

19:50:46 THEY ARE REQUESTING 15 TOTAL DWELLING UNITS, ATTACHED.

19:50:51 THIS HAS COME BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE

19:50:55 COMMISSION FOR REVIEW, BECAUSE IT IS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS

19:51:00 HISTORIC DISTRICT.

19:51:01 THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT

19:51:03 THIS IS FOUND ON THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGE 2, THAT THE

19:51:07 APPLICANT PROVIDE A AN OCCASION REGARDING GRANITE CURBS

19:51:11 AND DETAILING AND THE PROPOSES FENCING ON THE SITE PLAN.

19:51:19 I HAVE MADE NOTES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING IF YOU

19:51:22 MOVE TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION.

19:51:24 AS FAR AS THE SITE DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA, AND LAYOUT,

19:51:32 THERE IS THE ESSENTIAL DRIVE AISLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

19:51:35 PROPERTY.

19:51:35 THESE ARE FRONT DOORS ALL FACING THE MAIN STREET.

19:51:42 A FRONT DOOR FACING THIS STREET.

19:51:45 SIX UNITS HERE, THEY DO REQUEST A WAIVER FOR NOT FACING A

19:51:51 PUBLIC STREET.

19:51:52 STAFF DID NOT HAVE ANY DESIGN PROBLEMS WITH THAT WAIVER

19:51:56 REQUEST, THAT THE FRONT DOOR DOES NOT FACE THE STREET.

19:52:01 THEY DID PROVIDE GUEST PARKING SPACES.

19:52:03 HOWEVER BASED ON THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS THEY ARE

19:52:05 REQUIRED 34 PARKING SPACES.

19:52:07 THEY ARE ONLY PROVIDING 32.

19:52:08 SO THAT THE 6% PARKING WAIVER REDUCTION.

19:52:12 TRANSPORTATION DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE

19:52:14 PARKING REDUCTION.

19:52:16 BUT AGAIN THEY ARE REQUIRED 34.

19:52:17 THEY ARE GOING DOWN TO 32 SPACES.

19:52:20 THE ONLY OTHER WAIVERS THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR BASED ON

19:52:25 THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNIVERSITIES, IT'S 5,250 SQUARE FEET.

19:52:30 THEY ARE ASKING TO GO DOWN TO 3,660 SQUARE FEET WITH

19:52:35 PAYMENT IN LIEU AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.

19:52:37 AND THEN A USE-TO-USE BUFFER ALONG THE EAST PROPERTY

19:52:40 LINE.

19:52:44 IT ONLY GOES DOWN TO FIVE IN THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION

19:52:48 BECAUSE OF THE REQUIRED BACKUP DISTANCE TO PULL INTO THE

19:52:51 PARKING SPACES.

19:52:54 AS FAR AS THE OVERALL DESIGN, IT'S AN RM-24 LAND USE

19:52:59 CATEGORY, BUT THE APPLICANT IN EFFECT IN ORDER TO DO A

19:53:07 PRODUCT, THE RM-24 ZONING DISTRICT STANDARDS WITH

19:53:11 SETBACKS IN THE HEIGHT DON'T NECESSARILY CONFORM WITH

19:53:14 THOSE OF THE ARC AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SO THE PD

19:53:17 PROCESS IS A GOOD WAY TO IMPLEMENT THE DESIGN ELEMENTS OF

19:53:22 THE TAMPA HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT AS FAR AS BUILDING

19:53:25 AND MASSING IS DEFERRED TO BY CITY STAFF.

19:53:29 THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION

19:53:31 STAFF IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

19:53:34 THERE ARE CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING FOUND

19:53:37 IN THE STAFF REPORT FROM PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

19:53:40 COORDINATION.

19:53:40 SOME MINOR CHANGES IN THE SITE PLAN.

19:53:42 AGAIN, TRANSPORTATION DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT WITH A 6%

19:53:47 PARKING REDUCTION.

19:53:48 AND THERE IS ONE CHANGE TO THE SITE DATA TABLE.

19:53:53 AND LANDSCAPING INFORMATION FROM NATURAL RESOURCES.

19:53:56 SO OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW DID FIND THIS

19:54:00 INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE 6% PARKING WAIVER.

19:54:02 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

19:54:04 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

19:54:06 THANK YOU, MA'AM.

19:54:06 APPLICANT, PLEASE.

19:54:07 >> MY NAME IS ROBERT COVINGTON AND I WAS SWORN IN

19:54:19 EARLIER, THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROJECT.

19:54:21 AND LIKE SHE SAID BEFORE, LIKE STAFF SAID BEFORE, WE DID

19:54:24 HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH BOTH ARC AND ALSO I HAD

19:54:27 EXTENSIVE MEETING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND TAMPA HEIGHTS

19:54:33 CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

19:54:35 AND I MET WITH THE COMMUNITY TWICE IN REGARDS TO THE

19:54:37 PROJECT.

19:54:38 WE CAME UP WITH ONE DESIGN.

19:54:39 THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS.

19:54:41 WE REVISED THE DESIGNS TO FIT THEIR NEEDS.

19:54:44 WE PRESENTED AGAIN.

19:54:45 AND THE COMMUNITY IN THE AREA WAS VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT

19:54:47 WE PRESENTED.

19:54:48 OUR MAIN FOCUS WAS TO PAY HOMAGE TO THE AREA, WHICH IS A

19:54:52 VICTORIAN INFLUENCE PRODUCT, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

19:54:57 WHAT WE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY IS A VICTORIAN

19:55:00 PRODUCT.

19:55:00 AND WE ARE ACTUALLY PROUD OF, WE ARE HAPPY ABOUT.

19:55:04 AND I WOULD SAY WE ASKED FOR A COUPLE OF VARIANCES BUT

19:55:08 THINGS THAT WE PRESENTED TOTS CITY AND THEY WERE PRETTY

19:55:11 HAPPY WITH IT.

19:55:13 DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

19:55:15 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

19:55:16 MR. SHELBY.

19:55:17 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE MADE REFERENCE TO DISCUSSIONS

19:55:20 WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

19:55:21 DID YOU MEAN --

19:55:22 >> NO, I APOLOGIZE.

19:55:23 IT'S FOR TAMPA HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION.

19:55:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TAMPA HEIGHTS ASSOCIATION.

19:55:27 >> I'M SORRY.

19:55:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S OKAY.

19:55:31 >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY, I HAVE NO PRESENT

19:55:33 RECOLLECTION.

19:55:34 [ LAUGHTER ]

19:55:35 >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECEIVED A LETTER BUT THEY

19:55:38 ACTUALLY GAVE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION.

19:55:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO PUT THAT THE INTO THE

19:55:41 RECORD?

19:55:42 >> SURE.

19:55:42 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE SIR?

19:55:44 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

19:55:44 IS ANYONE HERE TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM AT ALL?

19:55:50 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.

19:55:51 >> SECOND.

19:55:53 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

19:55:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE ARE DRAWINGS ON THE FOURTH AND

19:56:02 FIFTH PAGES THAT SHOW THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS IN A LOT OF

19:56:08 DETAIL.

19:56:12 [RUSTLING PAPERS] THE VICTORIAN REFERENCE THAT PETITIONER

19:56:17 MADE REFERENCE TO.

19:56:22 I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION IS TO STAFF OR TO LEGAL.

19:56:26 IF THAT IS PART OF THE PD SUBMITTAL, ARE THEY NOW ABLE TO

19:56:31 DO THAT, TO DO THESE ELEVATIONS?

19:56:33 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

19:56:36 COORDINATION.

19:56:37 TYPICALLY, PER THE CODE REQUIREMENT, BUILDING, DESIGN

19:56:42 ELEVATIONS ARE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED WITH THE PLANNED

19:56:44 DEVELOPMENT.

19:56:45 TYPICALLY THOSE ARE FOR MASS AND SCALE AND THE APPLICANTS

19:56:48 ARE NOT NECESSARILY HELD TO THE SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL

19:56:52 DESIGN.

19:56:52 HOWEVER, IN THIS INSTANCE, THEY DID GO BEFORE THE ARC AND

19:56:57 DID PRESENT ELEVATIONS TO GET THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON

19:57:00 THE REZONING.

19:57:02 I AM SURE THAT THE APPLICANT INCLUDED THOSE EXACT

19:57:04 ELEVATIONS IN THIS PD PACKET SO THEY MATCH WHAT THE ARC A

19:57:10 R REVIEWED AND DID APPROVE.

19:57:12 HOWEVER, SAYING THAT, BECAUSE IT IS IN A HISTORIC

19:57:15 DISTRICT, WHEN THE SPECIFICS OF THE ARCHITECTURAL

19:57:17 STANDARDS COME FORWARD, THEY WILL HAVE TO GET A

19:57:19 CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE ARC.

19:57:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO IF THEY JUST FOR ARGUMENT SAKE, IF

19:57:28 THEY STRAYED FROM THE DESIGNS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE

19:57:32 ARC, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ARC TO

19:57:38 ADDRESS THAT?

19:57:41 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

19:57:44 THIS DID END UP BEING A LEGAL QUESTION.

19:57:45 THEY WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ARC ANYWAY, WHAT THE

19:57:50 HARC DID AT THAT HEARING WAS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE

19:57:52 REZONING.

19:57:52 SO AS FAR AS THE FINAL ARCHITECTURAL APPROVAL, IT WILL BE

19:57:57 UNDER YOUR CODE DELEGATED TO THE ARC.

19:58:01 WHERE THEY COULD VARY FROM THESE PLANS BUT THEY STILL

19:58:04 WILL HAVE THE MEET THE TAMPA HEIGHTS DESIGN GUIDELINES

19:58:07 AND YOUR CHAPTER 27 HISTORIC GUIDELINES.

19:58:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

19:58:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE?

19:58:14 OKAY.

19:58:14 WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:58:16 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

19:58:18 ALL IN FAVOR?

19:58:19 ANY OPPOSED?

19:58:20 COUNCILMAN CITRO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THIS ONE SIR?

19:58:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.

19:58:25 FILE NUMBER REZ 19-56.

19:58:29 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING.

19:58:31 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

19:58:35 302 EAST 7TH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND

19:58:39 MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING

19:58:42 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO

19:58:46 PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,

19:58:49 ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

19:58:52 AS THE PETITIONER HAS MET THE BURDEN OF PROOF, AND THERE

19:58:56 WILL BE MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING

19:59:00 INCLUDING ALL WAIVERS.

19:59:01 >> SECOND.

19:59:03 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

19:59:04 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

19:59:06 ALL IN FAVOR?

19:59:07 ANY OPPOSED?

19:59:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

19:59:11 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

19:59:11 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO BEING

19:59:17 ABSENT AT VOTE.

19:59:18 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY

19:59:21 6th, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

19:59:25 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

19:59:26 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

19:59:29 COORDINATION.

19:59:29 ITEM NUMBER 7 IS FOR THE APPLICATION REZ 19-103 FOR THE

19:59:33 PROPERTY ADDRESS 2522 AND 2966 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.

19:59:38 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY LOCATED

19:59:40 AT 2522 AND 2966 FROM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE CI AND PLANNED

19:59:47 DEVELOPMENT IN FILE REZ 1842 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

19:59:53 >> DANNY COLLINS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

20:00:14 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

20:00:15 OUR NEXT CASE BRINGS US TO THE WESTSHORE PLANNING

20:00:18 DISTRICT, AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE CARVER CITY

20:00:21 LINCOLN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD.

20:00:25 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED NEAR TRANSIT WITH STOP ON

20:00:30 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.

20:00:31 NORTH DALE MABRY IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS AND MIXED USE

20:00:33 CORRIDOR AS IDENTIFIED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

20:00:36 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN A LEVEL E EVACUATION ZONE.

20:00:43 THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:00:46 THE SITE IS HERE.

20:00:48 IT'S IN PURPLE COLOR.

20:00:50 PORTIONS OF THE SUBJECT SITE ARE CURRENTLY AN AUTO

20:00:53 DEALERSHIP.

20:00:54 THIS IS NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.

20:00:56 THIS IS WEST COLUMBUS.

20:00:59 JUST NORTH OF THE SITE.

20:01:00 THIS IS TAMPA AIRPORT.

20:01:05 TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE YOU WILL SEE SOME

20:01:07 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH SOME COMMERCIAL ALONG NORTH

20:01:09 DALE MABRY.

20:01:13 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

20:01:16 THE SITE IS CURRENTLY AN RMU 100 FUTURE LAND USE

20:01:20 CATEGORY.

20:01:22 RMU 100 IS FOUND ALONG NORTH DALE MABRY.

20:01:25 IT IS ALSO TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:01:28 THERE IS SOME RESIDENTIAL 10 JUST TO THE SOUTH IN THIS

20:01:31 ORANGISH TAN COLOR.

20:01:34 NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC SHOWN IN

20:01:37 BLUE ON THE MAP.

20:01:39 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION

20:01:41 AND FOUND THE PROPOSED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO BE

20:01:44 CONSISTENT WITH MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE

20:01:46 PLAN AS IT RELATES TO THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS MIXED

20:01:49 USE CORRIDORS.

20:01:50 THE SITE PLAN PROVIDES CROSSWALKS BETWEEN ADJACENT

20:01:53 BUILDINGS ENSURING SAFE AND CONVENIENT ACCESS FOR

20:01:56 PEDESTRIANS TO WALK TO NEARBY BUILDINGS WITHIN THE SITE.

20:01:59 FURTHERMORE, THE PROJECT PROVIDES FOR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN

20:02:02 AS CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL MIXED USE 100 FUTURE LAND

20:02:05 USE CATEGORY, ALSO RECOGNIZING THE UNIQUE OPERATING

20:02:09 CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPOSED AUTO DEALERSHIP.

20:02:11 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION

20:02:13 STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA

20:02:16 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

20:02:16 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

20:02:29 COORDINATION.

20:02:30 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE PROPERTY AT 2522 AND

20:02:33 2966 NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY FROM THE CI AND PD UNDER

20:02:38 REZ 18-42 TO PD.

20:02:41 AND THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR VEHICLE SALES AND LEASING MINOR

20:02:44 AND MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS,

20:02:48 RESTAURANT AND WAREHOUSE USES.

20:02:49 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS REZONED IN 2018 TO ALLOW FOR THE

20:02:52 VEHICLE SALES AND LEASING MAJOR AND MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR,

20:02:56 RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS AND WAREHOUSE USES.

20:03:01 IT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH ZONED CI AND

20:03:03 CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY VEHICLE SALES AND LEASING USE.

20:03:14 I'LL PUT THE SITE PLAN OTHER SCREEN AND ZOOM IN A LITTLE

20:03:17 BIT.

20:03:17 THE APPLICATION REQUESTS APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN

20:03:20 CONTROL ZONING FOR A TOTAL SITE AREA OF 866,495 SQUARE

20:03:22 FEET OR 19.892 ACRES. THIS PROJECT INCLUDES 3 PARCELS.

20:03:29 PARCEL A CONTAINS 52,660 SQUARE FEET FOR RETAIL BUILDING

20:03:35 IDENTIFIED AS BUILDING 1 LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF NORTH

20:03:37 DALE MABRY HIGHWAY AND WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.

20:03:40 SETBACKS FOR PARCEL A ARE AS FOLLOWS.

20:03:43 NORTH 15 FEET.

20:03:44 SOUTH 60 FEET.

20:03:46 EAST 49 FEET.

20:03:48 WEST 150 FEET.

20:03:50 PARCEL B CONTAINS AN EXISTING BUILDING IDENTIFIED AS

20:03:53 BUILDING NUMBER 2 ON THE SITE PLAN WITH 254,469 SQUARE

20:03:58 FEET FOR VEHICLE SALES AND LEASING, MAJOR AND MINOR

20:04:01 VEHICLE REPAIR, RESTAURANT AND PARKING GARAGE, AND

20:04:04 EXISTING BUILDING 3, WITH 33,754 SQUARE FEET FOR

20:04:09 WAREHOUSE USE.

20:04:10 SETBACKS FOR PARCEL B ARE AS FOLLOWS: NORTH 40 FEET,

20:04:15 SOUTH 67 FEET.

20:04:16 EAST 80 FEET.

20:04:18 WEST 60 FEET.

20:04:19 PARCEL C LOCATED TOWARDS THE SOUTH CONTAINS A PROPOSED

20:04:21 BUILDING IDENTIFIED AS BUILDING NUMBER 4 WITH 19,650

20:04:24 SQUARE FEET FOR VEHICLE SALES AND LEASING, MAJOR AND

20:04:29 MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR AND AN EXISTING BUILDING IDENTIFIED

20:04:32 AS BUILDING NUMBER 5 ON THE SITE PLAN WITH 43,102 SQUARE

20:04:37 FEET FOR VEHICLE SALES AND LEASING, MAJOR AND MINOR

20:04:40 VEHICLE REPAIR AND PROPOSED BUILDING 6 WITH 136,550

20:04:47 SQUARE FEET FOR A PARKING GARAGE.

20:04:48 SETBACKS FOR PARCEL C ARE AS FOLLOWS.

20:04:50 NORTH 120 FEET.

20:04:52 SOUTH 73 FEET AND EAST 67 FEET.

20:04:55 AND WEST 150 FEET.

20:04:58 PROPOSED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE A TOTAL OF 559 PARKING

20:05:01 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AN AND A TOTAL OF 1,763 PARKING

20:05:06 SPACES ARE BEING PROVIDED WHICH ARE COMPOSED OF 924

20:05:09 STANDARD SPACES, 21 ADA SPACES, 10 TRUCK PARKING SPACES

20:05:14 AND 808 SPACES LOCATED IN THE PARKING GARAGE.

20:05:21 THE AERIAL MAP ON THE SCREEN.

20:05:23 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY TAMPA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

20:05:26 TO THE NORTH, ACROSS WEST BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD, AND A

20:05:30 BUTTS RESIDENTIAL AND RESTAURANT TO THE SOUTH.

20:05:33 RESTAURANT AND RETAIL TO THE EAST ACROSS NORTH DALE MABRY

20:05:37 HIGH WAYNE AND ABUTS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND OFFICE

20:05:40 TO THE WEST.

20:05:40 THERE'S NO DIRECT VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM THE PROPERTY

20:05:43 SOUTH OR WEST INTO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

20:05:46 VEHICULAR ACCESS IS PROPOSED ON NORTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY

20:05:49 AND EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.

20:05:51 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN 1,000

20:05:54 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

20:05:55 I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THAT PROPERTY.

20:05:59 THIS IS A VIEW SOUTH ON NORTH DALE MABRY.

20:06:05 OTHER VIEW NORTH ON DALE MABRY.

20:06:08 THIS IS FROM THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING SOUTH, 2966.

20:06:14 THIS WAS THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE THAT ABUTS THE

20:06:19 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY USES AS WELL AS A COMMERCIAL

20:06:23 USE OVER HERE.

20:06:25 THIS IS THE ACCESS OFF OF COLUMBUS, WHICH WILL BE ON THE

20:06:28 NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

20:06:30 2511 NORTH GRADY IS DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY.

20:06:34 IT'S RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.

20:06:36 AS WELL AS 2615 GRADY.

20:06:39 THIS IS THE DIRECT NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST.

20:06:41 IT'S FOR COMMERCIAL OFFICE USE.

20:06:43 AND THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE

20:06:46 SOUTH.

20:06:49 THIS IS A VIEW OF SOUTH PALMETTO STREET THERE.

20:06:51 IS WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD

20:06:53 STARTS.

20:06:54 THIS IS LOOKING DOWN PALMETTO.

20:06:56 AND THEN THE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST ACROSS DALE MABRY.

20:07:01 AND A LITTLE BIT FARTHER SOUTH FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:07:09 I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE PREVIOUS REZONING DID

20:07:12 HAVE WAIVERS THAT WERE APPROVED, AND THEY ARE LISTED IN

20:07:14 YOUR STAFF REPORT.

20:07:15 THERE ARE A FEW WAIVERS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS

20:07:18 REQUEST LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL.

20:07:24 WITH THOSE WAIVERS, STAFF THOUGH DID FIND THE DEVELOPMENT

20:07:29 COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS PETITION AND FINDS THE

20:07:31 REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA

20:07:34 DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF

20:07:38 CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE WAIVERS AS IDENTIFIED IN THE

20:07:40 STAFF REPORT, FURTHER SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS MUST BE

20:07:43 COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND

20:07:45 READING.

20:07:46 OF THE ORDINANCE AS PROVIDED ON THE REVISION SHEET

20:07:48 CONTAINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

20:07:50 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY

20:07:52 HAVE.

20:07:52 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

20:07:55 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:07:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

20:07:58 GOOD COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF A COMPLICATED PROJECT, AND

20:08:02 WE APPRECIATE THAT.

20:08:04 THE CORNER, THE COLUMBUS CORNER WHICH INCLUDES THAT

20:08:07 BUILDING 1 AT THE TOP THERE --

20:08:11 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.

20:08:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: -- IS THAT CURRENTLY CI?

20:08:15 >> NO, SIR.

20:08:16 CI WOULD BE -- CURRENTLY UNDER THE 2018 REZONING REQUEST,

20:08:22 THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS WHAT I REFERENCED IN THE STAFF

20:08:24 REPORT IS UNDER PD.

20:08:26 THIS WOULD BE THE CI PORTION RATE HEAR TO THE SOUTH.

20:08:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THE EXISTING PD AT THE TOP AGAIN ALLOW

20:08:32 FOR THAT BUILDING TO BE AS CLOSE AS IT IS TO COLUMBUS?

20:08:37 AND HOW TALL IS THAT BUILDING?

20:08:39 >>RYAN MANASSE: THE HEIGHT IS LISTED ON THE SITE PLAN.

20:08:43 I WILL HAVE THE APPLICANT EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BETTER.

20:08:45 I DO VERY A REVISION THAT I REQUESTED THE HEIGHT BE

20:08:48 LISTED A LITTLE MORE CLEAR ON THE STAFF REPORT BETWEEN

20:08:50 FIRST AND SECOND READING FOR EACH BUILDING NUMBER.

20:08:53 BUT I WILL REFER ON THE APPLICANT TO EXPLAIN THE BUILDING

20:08:57 SAYS.

20:08:57 BUT AS FAR AS THE SET BACK IT IS IN THE WEST SHORE

20:08:59 OVERLAY.

20:09:00 THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT RUNS ALONG HERE, AND THE

20:09:03 PREVIOUS REZONING DID HAVE BEEN TO ACTUALLY MOVE THE

20:09:05 SETBACK BACK IN ORDER TO --

20:09:07 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WASN'T REFERRING SO MUCH TO THE DALE

20:09:09 MABRY SETBACK AS I WAS TO THE COLUMBUS SETBACK WHICH LASS

20:09:12 REALLY CLOSE.

20:09:12 >> IT WAS APPROVED LIKE THAT.

20:09:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OTHER

20:09:17 EXISTING PD?

20:09:19 >>RYAN MANASSE: YES, SIR.

20:09:20 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

20:09:22 THANK YOU, SIR.

20:09:24 APPLICANT.

20:09:24 >> GOOD EVENING MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

20:09:35 RICHARD BECKISH, WITH SPRING ENGINEERING.

20:09:37 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

20:09:38 3014 U.S. HIGHWAY 19.

20:09:41 OUR FIRM, OUR ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING FIRM DID THE

20:09:44 PREVIOUS PD WITH YOU IN 2018, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,

20:09:48 THE PREVIOUS PD CONSISTED OF PARCELS A AND B, BRINGING IN

20:09:54 PARCEL C FOR CONSISTENCY THERE, AND WE ARE ADDING

20:09:56 BUILDINGS 4 AND 6 TO THIS AND THERE ARE FOUR WAIVERS.

20:10:01 WITH THAT BEING SAID IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS

20:10:03 ABOUT THE WAIVERS OR THE HISTORY OF OHIO WE ZONED THIS, I

20:10:06 WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.

20:10:08 ALSO, TO YOUR QUESTION, THAT CORNER BUILDING IS ROOMS TO

20:10:12 GO.

20:10:13 AND THE BUILDING NEXT TO THAT IS JERRY ULM.

20:10:17 AND THAT ROOMS TO GO IS ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND

20:10:20 HAS BEEN APPROVED.

20:10:21 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT WILL BE RAMS TO GO?

20:10:23 >> RIGHT.

20:10:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO THEY INSTALLED THE FENCE.

20:10:28 >> YES.

20:10:29 THANK YOU.

20:10:30 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

20:10:31 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

20:10:34 ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT?

20:10:37 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

20:10:39 YOU ARE ASKING FOR A LOOT OF SIGNAGE.

20:10:40 >> WE HAVE A BOARD TO ILLUSTRATE THAT.

20:10:46 IT DOESN'T EXCEED THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIGNAGE.

20:10:49 IT'S JUST THE NUMBER OF SIGNAGE ITEMS ON THAT ELEVATION,

20:10:52 IF YOU COULD PULL THAT.

20:10:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ARE THEY GOING TO BE DIGITAL SIGNS?

20:10:58 >> THEY ARE NOT DIGITAL SIGNS BUT THE MANUFACTURER

20:11:01 REQUIRES A SERVICE SIGN, A MAZDA SIGN,.

20:11:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO YOU CAN SEE THE THREE.

20:11:06 >> AND IT BLEND VERY WELL WITH THAT FACADE SO IT'S NOT

20:11:14 OBTRUSIVE OR ANYTHING.

20:11:15 BUT THE MANUFACTURER REQUIRES THOSE THREE ELEMENTS ON THE

20:11:18 FRONT OF THAT BUILDING.

20:11:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: HOW ABOUT THE ROOMS TO GO?

20:11:20 >> THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THAT SIGNAGE SO THAT'S IN

20:11:23 THE ORIGINAL PD.

20:11:26 THAT'S NOT TODAY'S THE ONLY SIGNAGE WE ARE ASKING FOR

20:11:28 TODAY IS THAT SIGNAGE.

20:11:30 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

20:11:30 I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS.

20:11:32 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?

20:11:32 THANK YOU, SIR.

20:11:33 ANYBODY HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 7?

20:11:35 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

20:11:37 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.

20:11:40 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, I

20:11:42 BELIEVE.

20:11:43 THE SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:11:45 I WILL JUST SAY THAT.

20:11:46 ALL IN FAVOR?

20:11:47 ANY OPPOSED?

20:11:48 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DO YOU MIND TAKING THIS ONE, SIR?

20:11:53 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED

20:11:55 FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING

20:11:57 PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2522 AND 2966 NORTH

20:12:01 DALE MABRY HIGHWAY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE

20:12:04 PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT

20:12:06 CLASSIFICATION CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND PD PLANNED

20:12:10 DEVELOPMENT, VEHICLE SALES AND LEASE BEINGS MINOR AND

20:12:12 MAJOR VEHICLE REPAIR, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS,

20:12:15 WAREHOUSE, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, VEHICLE SALES AND

20:12:18 LEASING, MINOR AND MAJOR VEHICLE REPAIR, RETAIL SEATTLE,

20:12:22 SHOPPERS GOODS, RESTAURANT, WAREHOUSE, PROVIDING AN

20:12:25 EFFECTIVE DATE.

20:12:25 >> SECOND.

20:12:27 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:12:29 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

20:12:30 ALL IN FAVOR?

20:12:31 ANY OPPOSED?

20:12:32 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

20:12:36 SECOND READ BEING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY

20:12:38 6th, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

20:12:45 >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT IS NUMBER 8.

20:12:46 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

20:12:49 COORDINATION.

20:12:50 ITEM NUMBER 8 IS APPLICATION REZ 19-104 FOR THE PROPERTY

20:12:53 LOCATED AT 1520 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD.

20:12:57 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM

20:13:00 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE PD-A WHICH IS UNDER FILE

20:13:04 Z-000-03 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD.

20:13:26 >> DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

20:13:29 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

20:13:30 OUR NEXT CASE IS IN THE NEW TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, AND

20:13:33 MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE RICHMAN PLACE NEIGHBORHOOD.

20:13:38 SUBJECTS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT.

20:13:43 THERE IS A TRANSIT STOP THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT

20:13:45 SITE THAT CONNECTS TO DOWNTOWN AND THE TAMPA

20:13:48 INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.

20:13:49 THE SUBJECT SITE IS NOT WITHIN -- IS WITHIN A LEVEL E

20:13:55 EVACUATION ZONE.

20:13:57 THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:13:59 THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWN HERE OUTLINED FROM PURPLE.

20:14:04 IT'S AT THE CORNER -- AT THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY

20:14:08 PRESERVE PARKWAY AND BRUCE B. DOWNS.

20:14:10 THIS IS THE AMC MOVIE THEATER FOR REFERENCE.

20:14:13 YOU WILL SEE SOME SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL JUST TO THE

20:14:18 NORTHEAST, NORTH NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND YOU

20:14:21 WILL ALSO SEA SOME COMMERCIAL AT THAT INTERSECTION.

20:14:28 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

20:14:31 THIS IS IN THE SUBURBAN MIXED USE 6 FUTURE LAND USE

20:14:35 CATEGORY.

20:14:38 YOU WILL SEE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST IS THAT SMU 6

20:14:44 JUST ON THE SOUTH SIDE, YOU WILL SEE CC 35 WHICH IS THE

20:14:48 RED SHOWN ON THE MAP.

20:14:50 AND THEN YOU WILL SEE THIS TEAL COLOR JUST FURTHER

20:14:53 SOUTHEAST AND ALSO GOES IN AND OUT NORTHWEST OF THE

20:14:59 SUBJECT SITE.

20:14:59 THAT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LAND.

20:15:02 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND

20:15:04 FOUND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL

20:15:07 COMPROMISES -- COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES RELATED TO

20:15:11 MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.

20:15:13 THE BUILDING IS ADJACENT TO HIGHWAY PRESERVE PARKWAY.

20:15:16 PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION IS PROVIDED FOR THE BIDDING

20:15:18 ENTRANCES FROM BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD AND THE NEARBY

20:15:22 HART TRANSIT STOP.

20:15:23 IN ADDITION, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE

20:15:25 COMMERCIAL CHARACTER OF THIS AREA AND THIS INTERSECTION.

20:15:29 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION

20:15:31 STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA

20:15:34 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

20:15:35 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

20:15:36 ANY QUESTIONS?

20:15:40 THANK YOU.

20:15:40 >>RYAN MANASSE: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

20:15:44 COORDINATION.

20:15:45 APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT

20:15:48 17520 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD FROM PDA FILE Z 0032

20:15:55 PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE PD TO ALLOW FOR SHOPPERS

20:15:57 GOODS AND RETAIL SALES.

20:15:58 THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED WITH A VACANT

20:16:01 STRUCTURE.

20:16:01 THE PREVIOUS USE WAS A RESTAURANT AND THE SITE WILL BE

20:16:04 REDEVELOPED WITH THE USE AS RETAIL SALES AND SHOPPERS

20:16:07 GOODS FOR A PROPOSED GROCERY STORE.

20:16:09 THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE NEW TAMPA COMMERCIAL OVERLAY

20:16:11 DISTRICT.

20:16:14 LET ME PUT THE SITE PLAN UP.

20:16:18 THE PROJECT PROPOSES A BUILDING WITH A TOTAL AREA OF

20:16:20 19,160 SQUARE FEET.

20:16:23 THE SETBACKS ARE PROPOSED AS NORTH 10 FEET, SOUTH 50

20:16:27 FEET, EAST 20 FEET AND THE WEST 10 FEET.

20:16:29 MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED AT 24 FEET 8 INCHES

20:16:33 TO THE TOP OF THE PARAPET.

20:16:34 BASED ON THE PROPOSED SQUARE FOOTAGE THE TOTAL OF 77

20:16:37 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND A TOTAL OF 106 ARE BEING

20:16:42 PROVIDED.

20:16:47 PUT THE AERIAL MAP ON.

20:16:51 THE PROPERTY HAS VEHICULAR ACCESS OFF OF PRESERVE WALK

20:16:55 LANE.

20:16:56 THERE IS NO DIRECT VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM BRUCE B. DOWNS

20:16:58 BOULEVARD.

20:16:58 THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY RETAIL AND RESTAURANT USES

20:17:01 TO THE NORTH, ACROSS HIGHWOODS PRESERVE PARKWAY.

20:17:05 RESTAURANT AND RETAIL USES TO THE SOUTH AND EAST ACROSS

20:17:07 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD, AND A FEEDER USE TO THE WEST

20:17:10 ACROSS PRESERVE WALK LANE.

20:17:13 THE SITE IS SURROUNDING PARCELS ARE ALL PART OF AN

20:17:17 OVERALL PDA AND AGAIN THAT FILE IS ZERO 03.

20:17:21 THERE ARE NO HISTORIC LANDMARK STRUCTURES WITHIN A

20:17:23 THOUSAND FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

20:17:25 I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU A FEW PICTURES.

20:17:29 THERE'S THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:17:31 THIS IS LOOKING IF YOU ARE STANDING WITH BRUCE B. DOWNS

20:17:34 TO YOUR BACK.

20:17:35 NORTH SIDE OF THE EXISTING PARKING LOT.

20:17:39 THIS IS NORTH ALONG PRESERVE WALK LANE.

20:17:42 THIS IS AN INTERNAL DRIVE, AMC THEATER TO THE WEST.

20:17:47 THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT LOOKING WEST

20:17:50 TOWARDS THE AMC.

20:17:52 THIS IS NORTH ACROSS HIGH WADS PRESERVE PARKWAY.

20:17:55 SO THE SITE WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH.

20:17:59 THERE'S THE NEIGHBOR.

20:18:00 AGAIN THE AMC TO THE WEST.

20:18:02 SOUTHEAST ACROSS BRUCE B. DOWNS.

20:18:05 AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, THE STRIP CENTER WITH COMMERCIAL

20:18:09 USES.

20:18:10 THIS IS AN AREA OF RETAIL.

20:18:12 AND HERE IS THE INTERSECTION AT BRUCE B. DOWNS AND

20:18:14 HIGHWAY PRESERVE LANE.

20:18:17 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLAINS STAFF HAS REVIEWED

20:18:19 THE PETITION AND FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE

20:18:22 APPLICABLE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

20:18:24 SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE

20:18:27 WAIVERS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT, FURTHER

20:18:31 SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE

20:18:33 APPLICANT IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

20:18:36 THOSE REVISIONS ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT AS THE REVISION

20:18:39 SHEET HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE

20:18:41 APPLICANT.

20:18:41 AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY

20:18:44 HAVE.

20:18:45 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

20:18:46 THANK YOU, SIR.

20:18:48 APPLICANT, PLEASE.

20:18:53 GOOD EVENING.

20:18:59 I AM SCOTT STANNARD, AT 21764 STATE ROAD 54 IN LUTZ,

20:19:11 FLORIDA.

20:19:11 STAFF HAS DONE A NICE JOB OF CONVEYING TO YOU GUYS WHAT

20:19:14 IT IS WE PLAN TO DO.

20:19:15 THIS WOULD BE A REDEVELOPMENT OF WHAT IS NOW AN EMPTY

20:19:17 RUBY TUESDAYS THAT WILL BE REDEVELOPED INTO THE 19,000

20:19:21 AND A COUPLE SQUARE FEET OF SMALL GROCERY RETAIL.

20:19:27 AS STAFF MENTIONED WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF

20:19:29 THE TWO WAIVERS.

20:19:30 I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THOSE.

20:19:33 WE FEEL IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT ACTUALLY BECAUSE THE ARBORIST

20:19:39 WENT OUT, WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING DOWN A FEW DEAD

20:19:42 TREES, BEEFING THAT UP.

20:19:43 WE ARE ACTUALLY STAYING WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF

20:19:45 IMPERVIOUS AREA AND REDUCING THAT A LITTLE BIT SEPTEMBER

20:19:48 WE FEEL IT'S A NICE FIT.

20:19:50 AND WE WILL BE ADDING A NEW SIDEWALK ALONG HIGH WADS.

20:19:55 I THINK IT WILL BE A NICE ADDITION TO THE PEDESTRIANS WHO

20:19:58 USE THAT AREA AND THE BUS STOP AS WELL.

20:20:00 SO FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

20:20:02 I LEAVE IT TO YOU GUYS TO ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU

20:20:04 MAY HAVE.

20:20:05 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

20:20:09 THANK YOU, SIR.

20:20:09 I WILL JUST SAY THAT I LIVE OUT IN NEW TAMPA, AND I AM

20:20:12 GLAD TO SEE THIS RUBY TUESDAY'S HAS BECOME AN EYESORE OUT

20:20:16 THERE.

20:20:16 SO TO QUOTE MICK JAGGER, GOOD-BYE RUBY TUESDAY'S.

20:20:22 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:20:23 ANYBODY HERE TO COMMENT?

20:20:25 ANYBODY HERE TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 8?

20:20:33 PLAYED THIRD BASE FOR THE PITTSBURGH PIRATES.

20:20:35 ANYBODY HEAR TO COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 8?

20:20:39 OKAY.

20:20:40 MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

20:20:43 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:20:44 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

20:20:46 ALL IN FAVOR?

20:20:47 ANY OPPOSED?

20:20:48 OKAY.

20:20:49 COUNCILMAN GUDES, ITEM NUMBER 8.

20:20:52 >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE REZ 19-104.

20:20:55 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

20:20:57 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE

20:20:59 GENERAL VICINITY OF 17520 BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD IN THE

20:21:03 CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

20:21:05 SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD-A

20:21:10 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALTERNATIVE, RESTAURANT, TO PLANNED

20:21:13 DEVELOPMENT, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPERS GOODS, PROVIDING AN

20:21:20 EFFECTIVE DATE.

20:21:23 PETITIONER HAS MET ALL THE STAFF GOALS PERTAINING TO THE

20:21:29 CITY AND PLANNING COMMISSION LISTING AS CONSISTENT.

20:21:37 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.

20:21:40 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

20:21:42 ALL IN FAVOR?

20:21:44 ANY OPPOSED?

20:21:54 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:21:58 ITEM NUMBER 10.

20:21:59 OH, I'M SORRY.

20:22:00 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

20:22:02 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY

20:22:04 6th, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

20:22:08 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

20:22:08 ITEM NUMBER 11.

20:22:10 >>REBECCA KERT: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

20:22:19 ITEMS 11 AND 12 ARE RELATED TO THE PLANNED DEVELOP AS YOU

20:22:23 WILL NOTE ON YOUR AGENDA.

20:22:24 THERE WAS A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR THE REZONING BASED

20:22:27 UPON THE CHANGES THAT OCCURRED FROM THE LAST

20:22:31 CONTINUANCES.

20:22:32 ALSO, ORDINANCE FOR VACATING THAT I WILL BE HANDING OUT

20:22:36 TO YOU.

20:22:37 IF IT IS CITY COUNCIL'S PLEASURE YOU CAN OPEN THESE AND

20:22:40 HEAR THEM TOGETHER.

20:22:40 HOWEVER, YOU DO NEED TO CONSIDER THE VACATING SEPARATELY

20:22:43 FROM THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT REZONING THAT'S BEFORE YOU.

20:22:48 YOU NEED TO HEAR THE VACATING FIRST AND APPLY THE

20:22:51 SEPARATE STANDARDS.

20:22:51 >>LUIS VIERA: MR. GARDNER, DO YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE

20:22:55 ISSUE OF CONSOLIDATING THESE TWO?

20:22:59 >>TRUETT GARDNER: YES.

20:22:59 WE ARE ACTUALLY FINE WITH OPENING THESE TWO TOGETHER AS

20:23:01 WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST BUT AGREE WITH REBECCA.

20:23:04 OBVIOUSLY WE NEED THE VACATING TO BE APPROVED IN ORDER

20:23:07 FOR THE PD TO BE APPROVED SINCE IT INVOLVES THAT

20:23:10 PROPERTY.

20:23:12 BUT WE ARE FINE WITH THOSE BEING HEARD TOGETHER.

20:23:15 >>LUIS VIERA: I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH PROCEEDING

20:23:16 CONCURRENTLY.

20:23:17 ANY OBJECTION FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS?

20:23:19 OKAY.

20:23:19 WE WILL.

20:23:21 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

20:23:23 IF YOU COULD JUST ASK FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT BOTH

20:23:26 SUBSTITUTIONS FOR BOTH 11 AND 12.

20:23:30 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:23:32 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?

20:23:34 ANY ANYONE OPPOSED?

20:23:36 THANK YOU.

20:23:45 >>JAMES COOK: LAND DEVELOPMENT AND STAFF.

20:23:46 I WILL BE DOING VAC 19-27.

20:23:49 APPLICANT REQUESTING TO VACATE A PORTION OF CARMEN

20:23:52 STREET, LYING NORTH OF NORTH B STREET, SOUTH OF CASS

20:23:55 STREET, EAST OF GILCHRIST AVENUE AND WEST OF CSX RAILROAD

20:23:59 OF THE

20:24:04 ON THE OVERHEAD, THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY CROSS HATCHED

20:24:06 IN RED.

20:24:07 CARMEN STREET OUTLINED IN YELLOW, WISHING TO VACATE, CSX

20:24:12 RAILROAD CORRIDOR RIGHT HERE.

20:24:14 ACROSS THE CORRIDOR IS UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY.

20:24:17 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, CARMEN STREET IS UNIMPROVED.

20:24:20 THERE'S AN EXISTING GATE, THE RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY AT

20:24:23 THE INTERSECTION RIGHT HERE.

20:24:25 IT'S KIND OF BLOCKED OFF FOR THE GATE.

20:24:28 IT'S FIFTY FEET WIDE.

20:24:30 IT'S OCCUPIED BY EXISTING UTILITIES.

20:24:33 AND ALTHOUGH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ISN'T LOCATED WITHIN THE

20:24:35 HISTORIC DISTRICT; IT IS LOCATED IN WEST TAMPA OVERLAY

20:24:38 DISTRICT.

20:24:39 PROPOSED VACATING IS APPROXIMATELY 5400 SQUARE FEET.

20:24:42 AND THE EXTENSION HAS AN ADDITION PLATTED FROM 1890

20:24:51 ORIGINALLY PLATTED AS NORTH B STREET, AND THIS IS

20:24:53 HIGHLIGHTED RIGHT HERE WHAT THEY WISH TO VACATE.

20:24:56 PART OF THE OTHER HIGHLIGHTS ARE EXISTING VACATING WAS

20:25:01 APPROVED IN THE PAST. A COUPLE OF PHOTOS.

20:25:04 THIS IS CARMEN STREET LOOKING EAST TOWARDS THE DEAD-END.

20:25:09 CSX HAS A FENCE, A GATE RIGHT HERE, AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY

20:25:13 THEY WISH TO APPLY BEHIND THAT FENCE.

20:25:20 HERE IS A CLOSE-UP OF THAT GATE.

20:25:23 AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE IS A GATE BEHIND WHATEVER IS

20:25:25 LEANING UP AGAINST THAT.

20:25:29 THERE'S CARMEN STREET LOOKING WEST FROM DELAWARE AVENUE.

20:25:32 THIS IS NOT TO BE VACATED.

20:25:33 THIS IS JUST LOOKING BACK.

20:25:36 HERE IS DELAWARE AVENUE LOOKING NORTH FROM CARMEN STREET.

20:25:41 THE AREA VACATES IS OFF HEAR TO THE SIDE.

20:25:46 A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.

20:25:49 THIS IS THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF

20:25:52 CARMEN AND GILCHRIST AVENUE.

20:25:55 THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH FROM

20:25:57 CARMEN STREET AND A DEAD-END.

20:26:01 THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY NORTHEAST FROM THE

20:26:04 CORNER OF BIG AND YOU GILCHRIST.

20:26:08 THIS IS THE ABUTTING PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WHAT'S

20:26:10 BEING ASKED TO BE VACATED.

20:26:13 STAFF OBJECTS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST BASED ON COMMENTS

20:26:16 RECEIVED FROM THE FOLLOWING REVIEWING AGENCIES.

20:26:18 CSX RAILROAD, TRANCE PLANNING, URBAN DESIGN, AND TRAFFIC

20:26:24 DESIGN.

20:26:24 I DO BELIEVE I HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CSX HERE THAT

20:26:27 WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THEIR OBJECTION AND ALSO JONATHAN

20:26:30 SCOTT HERE TO REPRESENT TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING FOR

20:26:33 THEIR OBJECTION.

20:26:34 IF YOU CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS VACATING REQUEST EASEMENTS

20:26:40 WILL BE RESERVED.

20:26:41 OVERALL EASEMENT FOR CSX, TRANSPORTATION, SPECTRUM,

20:26:45 WASTEWATER AND TECO.

20:26:46 THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH CHAPTERS 13 AND 27

20:26:50 IN REGARDS TO TREE PRESERVATION, NEED TO REMOVE ANY

20:26:53 EXISTING STREETLIGHTS AND COMPLY WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE

20:26:56 CONDITIONS.

20:26:57 I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE REZONING APPLICATION

20:27:01 IS NOT CONTINGENT ON THE VACATING.

20:27:03 SO IS THE YOU DENY THE VACATING THE REZONING CAN MOVE

20:27:07 FORWARD WITHOUT THIS.

20:27:08 THEY HAVE TO REVISE THEIR SITE PLAN AND TAKE THAT'S IT.

20:27:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. COOKE, CAN YOU PUT UP THE VERY

20:27:20 FIRST AERIAL MAP?

20:27:24 >>JAMES COOK: AERIAL?

20:27:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: CORRECT.

20:27:27 SO THE VACATING THERE IN YELLOW THAT'S ON THE EAST SIDE

20:27:39 DIRECTLY UP TO THE CSX RIGHT-OF-WAY?

20:27:41 >> CSX RIGHT-OF-WAY IS RATE HERE.

20:27:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THERE'S NO CONNECTION TO ANY OTHER

20:27:46 STREET OR ANYTHING ELSE?

20:27:49 >> FROM THE PIECE THEY WANT TO VACATE.

20:27:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT DOESN'T --

20:27:55 >> THERE WAS AN OLD ALLEY RIGHT HERE PREVIOUSLY VACATED

20:27:57 SOMETIME BACK THAT RUNS NORTH-SOUTH RIGHT THROUGH THIS

20:28:00 BLOCK.

20:28:02 THIS IS IMPROVED RIGHT-OF-WAY.

20:28:03 THIS IS IMPROVED RIGHT-OF-WAY.

20:28:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU SAY OBJECTIONS FROM CSX AND

20:28:09 TRANSPORTATION.

20:28:09 WHO ELSE EXACTLY?

20:28:11 >> URBAN DESIGN AND TRAFFIC DESIGN.

20:28:13 AND BASICALLY ALL FOUR OBJECTIONS ARE BASED B THE SAME

20:28:16 THING.

20:28:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: URBAN DESIGN, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM.

20:28:21 >> ACCESS TO URBAN CORRIDOR.

20:28:23 THERE'S A MASTER PLAN FOR GREENWAYS AND TRAILS PROJECT TO

20:28:26 USE THE CSX CORRIDOR AND POTENTIAL LIGHT RAIL IN THE

20:28:30 FUTURE.

20:28:31 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO AREN'T THERE OTHER WAYS TO GET INTO

20:28:34 THAT CSX CORRIDOR?

20:28:36 I AM LOOKING AT FIG, AND NORTH B, AND --

20:28:39 >> CSX IS HERE.

20:28:42 I CAN LET THEM TALK ABOUT THAT.

20:28:44 BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL RIGHTS-OF-WAY ALONG THE

20:28:46 CORRIDOR THAT STILL EXIST.

20:28:48 BUT THERE ARE A LOT THAT HAVE BEEN VACATED OVER THE

20:28:51 YEARS.

20:28:51 NOTHING RECENTLY, THOUGH.

20:28:53 EVER SINCE THE MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY THE

20:28:55 PLANNING COMMISSION.

20:28:57 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I MEANT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE IN

20:28:59 TERMS OF AN URBAN TRAIL.

20:29:01 I MEAN, IT'S NOT -- TO ME IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT CRITICAL

20:29:05 BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OTHER PLACES TO --

20:29:09 >> I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL MAP.

20:29:11 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IF YOU RIDE YOUR BIKE TO THE

20:29:13 NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU WANT TO GET ON THE TRAIL YOU COULD

20:29:15 GO FIG, CASS --

20:29:20 >>JAMES COOK: THEY REMOVED CASS FROM THIS PETITION SO

20:29:22 ORIGINALLY THEY WERE APPLYING FOR THAT JUST BASED ON THE

20:29:24 OBJECTION.

20:29:24 SO FIG WOULD STILL EXIST.

20:29:27 NORTH B IS GONE.

20:29:28 DOWN HERE IT DOESN'T -- KENNEDY IS RIGHT HERE, IT

20:29:31 CROSSES.

20:29:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD WE REQUIRE THEM TO AT A MINIMUM

20:29:34 ALLOW PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGH THERE, IF AND WHEN THERE

20:29:36 WAS A TRAIL?

20:29:39 >>JAMES COOK: THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITION IF YOU CHOOSE

20:29:40 TO APPROVE THIS, IT'S RESERVED IN THE ORDINANCE AN ACCESS

20:29:44 EASEMENT AND TRANSPORTATION.

20:29:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

20:29:47 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?

20:29:48 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: THE REZONING REQUEST IS REZ 92 A

20:30:04 REQUEST FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 11 02 THROUGH 116

20:30:09 FROM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR

20:30:11 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

20:30:12 >> DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

20:30:21 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

20:30:28 THIS CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.

20:30:30 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.

20:30:33 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITH PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT

20:30:37 WITH THE TRANSIT STOP AT THE CORNER OF NORTH BOULEVARD

20:30:39 AND WEST CASS STREET.

20:30:40 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS JULIAN B LANE

20:30:46 PARK WHICH IS WITHIN A HALF MAIL NORTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT

20:30:49 SITE.

20:30:50 SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.

20:30:56 THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:31:00 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWN OUTLINED IN PURPLE.

20:31:04 THIS IS WEST CASS STREET JUST A COUPLE BLOCKS TO THE

20:31:09 NORTH. THIS IS WEST KENNEDY.

20:31:11 TO THE SOUTH.

20:31:13 AT WILLOW A COUPLE BLOCKS TO THE WEST.

20:31:16 AND THEN THIS IS THAT CSX TRACK.

20:31:21 AND THEN THIS IS THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA JUST TO THE EAST

20:31:24 OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:31:28 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

20:31:32 THE SITE IS IN THE UMU URBAN MIXED USE 60 FEET LAND USE

20:31:38 CATEGORY WHICH IS INTENDED FOR AREAS FOR INTENSIVE AND IN

20:31:41 GENERAL COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

20:31:44 THERE IS UMU 60 TO THE NORTH, EAST -- OR NORTH, WEST AND

20:31:49 SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:31:52 AND THEN THERE IS SOME PUBLIC SHOWN IN BLUE JUST TO THE

20:31:56 EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

20:31:58 AND THEN AS YOU GET DOWN TOWARDS KENNEDY THERE IS SOME CC

20:32:03 35 THAT'S SHOWN IN RED.

20:32:05 RESIDENTIAL 35.

20:32:06 AND THEN RMU 100.

20:32:10 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST TO BE

20:32:13 CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS

20:32:16 IT RELATES TO URBAN VILLAGES AND DEVELOPED IN MIXED USE

20:32:19 CORRIDORS.

20:32:20 THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE

20:32:22 WHICH ENCOURAGED THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

20:32:25 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPORTS IN-FILL DEVELOPMENT SUCH

20:32:27 AS THE PROPOSAL, BRINGS DENSITY TO AREAS REQUEST ACCESS

20:32:32 TO TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.

20:32:34 THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ALSO PROVIDES ACCESS ALONG THE

20:32:36 NORTH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT SITE TO THE POTENTIAL SOUTH

20:32:39 TAMPA GATEWAY LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE

20:32:43 WHICH IS SUPPORTED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

20:32:45 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS PLANNING STATION SARASOTA

20:32:49 FIND THE PLAN CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE

20:32:52 PLAN.

20:32:52 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.

20:32:58 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

20:33:01 COORDINATION.

20:33:02 HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

20:33:10 PROPERTY IS IN ORANGE.

20:33:12 THE MADE SURROUNDING AREA IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.

20:33:14 WHEN WE ZOOM OUT AND YOU GO TO THE WEST OF WILLOW INTO

20:33:19 THE NORTH OF CASS, YOU START GETTING INTO THE

20:33:22 HISTORICALLY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD

20:33:26 TRANSITIONING OVER TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

20:33:35 THERE IS THE SITE PLAN.

20:33:37 OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL.

20:33:40 THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL

20:33:42 ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY THEY ARE PROPOSING.

20:33:44 HOWEVER, AT THIS TIME, THEY ARE PROPOSING A TOTAL OF 251

20:33:48 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS WITHIN ONE BUILDING WITH

20:33:50 INTEGRATED PARKING GARAGE.

20:33:52 THE PROPERTY IS 1.82 ACRES CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY HOUSING

20:33:58 AND DISTRIBUTION AND OFFICE USES.

20:34:02 THE PROPERTY IS IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT AND IS

20:34:06 REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH CHAPTER SECTION 27-241.

20:34:10 THE PROPOSED SETBACKS TO THE NORTH IS ZERO SOUTH, ZERO

20:34:14 EAST IS 3, AND WEST IS 2 FEET WITH A MAXIMUM BUILDING

20:34:17 HATE OF 73 FEET.

20:34:19 BASED ON THE REQUIRED PROPOSED NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND

20:34:23 DWELLING UNITS, 382 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 333

20:34:28 ARE PROPOSED.

20:34:30 THAT IS A PARKING REDUCTION OF 13% SUBJECT TO CITY

20:34:33 COUNCIL WAIVER APPROVAL.

20:34:39 ALL OF THE PROPOSED PARKING AGAIN WILL BE INTEGRATED

20:34:42 PARKING SPACES OFF OF WEST CARMEN STREET.

20:34:48 THIS GENERAL LOCATION.

20:34:51 AGAIN, THIS FOR YOUR REFERENCE, AS MR. COOKE STATED FROM

20:34:55 THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DIVISION, THIS IS THE PORTION OF CARMEN

20:34:58 THAT IS PROPOSING TO BE VACATED.

20:35:00 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A BALLPARK IN THIS AREA, AGAIN

20:35:04 WITH A TRANSPORTATION EASEMENT, IF VACATION IS APPROVED,

20:35:08 NO VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION CAN OCCUR IN THAT AREA.

20:35:12 THE ALLOWABLE MAXIMUM F.A.R. FOR THIS LAND USE CATEGORY

20:35:15 IS THE 2.5.

20:35:16 THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 2.48 FLOOR AREA RATIO SO

20:35:22 THEY ARE WELL WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS.

20:35:26 THERE ARE SOME CHANGES BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

20:35:28 THERE'S SOME MINOR CHANGES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT DESIGN,

20:35:33 PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

20:35:35 TRANSPORTATION DID FIND THIS INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THE

20:35:41 52% PARKING REDUCTION OF THE THEY HAD SOME CHANGES

20:35:44 BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.

20:35:46 NATURAL RESOURCES FOUND IT CONSISTENT.

20:35:48 AGAIN SOME SITE MODIFICATIONS TO SOME OF THE TREE DATA

20:35:50 AND 07 SPACE DATA THAT IS ON THE SITE PLAN.

20:35:53 AND URBAN DESIGN DID FIND THIS CONSISTENT.

20:35:57 SO AGAIN THERE ARE WAIVERS -- I'M SORRY, THERE ARE

20:36:02 REVISIONS TO OCCUR AFTER THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND

20:36:06 SECOND READING.

20:36:07 OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND

20:36:10 THIS INCONSISTENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE 13% PARKING WAIVER

20:36:13 REDUCTION.

20:36:14 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

20:36:17 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?

20:36:18 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BEFORE THE PARKING WAIVER -- [OFF

20:36:28 MICROPHONE]

20:36:29 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: YES, SIR.

20:36:36 >>TRUETT GARDNER: 401 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.

20:36:38 HERE ON BEHALF OF WINGSPAN DEVELOPMENT AND GARY AND

20:36:41 EDWARD COHEN OF ABC CAPITAL.

20:36:45 AND WE ARE EXCITED.

20:36:46 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, HAD A CONTINUANCE LAST TIME

20:36:49 WHICH WE WERE HOPING NOT TO HAVE.

20:36:51 BUT WE FEEL LIKE YOU WILL THINK THIS IS A VERY

20:36:54 PROGRESSIVE PROJECT.

20:36:55 IT DIRECTLY ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT TAMPA HAS

20:36:58 TALKED ABOUT AS GOALS AND NEEDS, IN PARTICULAR, PRICED

20:37:06 FROM A RENTAL STANDPOINT.

20:37:07 WE CAN GET INTO THAT WITH GRANULAR DETAIL BUT THAT'S BEEN

20:37:10 A GOAL SINCE THE BEGINNING.

20:37:12 TRANSIT ORIENTED, WE ARE 82 FEET, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE

20:37:18 SITE PLAN, YOU WILL SEE WE ARE ADJACENT TO THE CSX RAIL

20:37:22 CORRIDOR, BUT THE ACTUAL RAIL LINE IS ON THE FAR EASTERN

20:37:26 SIDE, SO WE ARE 82 FEET AWAY FROM THAT.

20:37:29 THIRD, WE'LL HAVE AN URBAN POCKET PARK, AND THEN LASTLY,

20:37:34 WE BELIEVE THIS WILL HAVE A POSITIVE COMMUNITY IMPACT.

20:37:37 AND WITH THAT WE JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF.

20:37:39 THIS IS AN OUT OF THE BOX DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY HAVE BEEN

20:37:43 GREAT THROUGHOUT.

20:37:45 AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS.

20:37:47 WITH RESPECT TO THE VACATING, IF I COULD,.

20:38:02 WHEN WE WERE LAST IN FRONT OF YOU AND REQUESTED A

20:38:12 CONTINUANCE, WE ACTUALLY HAD TWO VACATINGS PROPOSED.

20:38:16 MOVE THIS UP.

20:38:18 SINCE THE SCRIPT IS RUNNING OVER IT.

20:38:20 ON THE BOTTOM, THIS IS FIG STREET.

20:38:22 WE WERE PROPOSING TO VACATE THIS SECTION HERE WHICH IS

20:38:24 ACTUALLY IMPROVED.

20:38:26 AND THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE, THIS IS PORTION OF CARMEN

20:38:30 WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED.

20:38:32 CSX AT THAT TIME WAS THE PRIMARY REASON FOR OUR

20:38:36 CONTINUANCE.

20:38:37 AND WHAT WE DID WAS WE DROPPED THE FIG VACATING

20:38:40 ALTOGETHER, THE IMPROVED SECTION.

20:38:42 LEAVING THE UNIMPROVED PORTION OF CARMEN.

20:38:45 SO WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY WHERE WE WERE BEFORE, AND WHERE

20:38:49 WE ARE NOW.

20:38:51 SO MR. DINGFELDER, YOU MENTIONED THERE ARE OTHER ACCESS

20:38:55 POINTS, BUT SPECIFICALLY WE WERE PROPOSING TO VACATE ON

20:38:58 THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH.

20:39:00 WE DROPPED THE VACATING TO THE SOUTH BUT WOULD LIKE TO

20:39:04 MAINTAIN THE CARMEN VACATING ON THE NORTH.

20:39:08 NEXT, AND JIMMY DID A GREAT JOB OF SHOWING THIS BUT THIS

20:39:15 IS JUST ANOTHER MAP SHOWING IN YELLOW IS OUR PROPERTY,

20:39:20 AGAIN GILCHRIST ON THE LEFT, CARMEN ON THE NORTH, FIG ON

20:39:24 THE SOUTH, EVERYTHING YOU SEE IN THE PURPLE COLOR ARE

20:39:28 EXISTING VACATINGS IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA.

20:39:31 SO YOU CAN JUST SEE THE PATTERN OF VACATING THAT'S

20:39:34 OCCURRED.

20:39:34 AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION THAT CAME UP EARLY ON, MR.

20:39:37 DINGFELDER, I BELIEVE IT WAS YOU, WHICH I THINK WAS THE

20:39:40 QUESTION WAS, IS THIS AT ALL IMPEDING ACCESS THROUGH THE

20:39:44 STREETS, NOT NECESSARILY TO THE CORRIDOR, BUT THROUGH THE

20:39:47 STREETS?

20:39:48 AND IF I MAY, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS JUST THIS STUB

20:39:53 RIGHT HERE, SO NO N NO WAY DOES THAT IMPEDE THE ACCESS

20:39:57 FOR VEHICLES AROUND THERE AT ALL.

20:40:03 THEN WHERE THINGS REALLY GET INTERESTING, I THINK THIS IS

20:40:06 BOTH IRONIC BUT ALSO SPEAKS TO THE MERITS OF THE

20:40:09 VACATING, AS MARY MENTIONED, THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY

20:40:16 OBJECTIONS THAT APPLIED BOTH TO CSX, TO TRANCE

20:40:21 TRANSPORTATION, AS WELL AS URBAN DESIGN.

20:40:23 AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS FOR THE VACATING AND

20:40:26 APPLICATION ITSELF, WHEN STAFF REVIEWS, ONE OF THE

20:40:32 REASONS WHY ONE OF THESE APPLICATIONS TO BE HEARD

20:40:34 TOGETHER IS BECAUSE I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE

20:40:37 OBJECTIONS, WHAT WE ARE PROVIDING HERE DIRECTLY ANSWERS

20:40:41 THOSE OBJECTIONS.

20:40:43 SO WHAT I AM GOING TO BE REFERRING TO IS A BLOW-UP OF

20:40:46 JUST THAT SECTION RIGHT THERE.

20:40:48 OF CARMEN.

20:40:49 AND THIS IS WHAT IT WILL BECOME.

20:40:57 SO AGAIN, OBJECTIONS, MAINTAIN ACCESS TO A RAIL CORRIDOR,

20:41:06 TO TRANSPORTATION, A RAIL PAD ALONG THE CSX RIGHT-OF-WAY,

20:41:11 AND THREE, THIS IS THE GREENWAY AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN

20:41:14 AREA, AND WHICH GOES BACK TO THE ACCESS.

20:41:17 SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THAT LITTLE

20:41:20 STUB SECTION OF CARMEN, IS THIS POCKET PARK, EASEMENTS

20:41:24 WILL BE GRANTED BACK OVER FOR PEDESTRIAN, AS WELL AS FOR

20:41:27 VEHICLES, AND THEN YOU WILL NOTICE DIRECTLY -- AND AGAIN

20:41:31 THIS IS ON THE PD SITE PLAN AS A REQUIREMENT, THIS AREA

20:41:33 RIGHT HERE IS DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE RAIL PAD, ONE OF THE

20:41:39 EXACT OBJECTIONS FOR TRANSPORTATION, AND THEN SECONDLY,

20:41:41 ACCESS.

20:41:43 THIS IS PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.

20:41:45 AND AGAIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS NOT ALLOWING US TO

20:41:49 PUT ANY SORT OF PERMANENT FIXTURES OR FURNITURE OR

20:41:52 IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS, SO VEHICLE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO

20:41:54 TRAVERSE IT TOO.

20:41:56 SO WE THINK IT HAS THE BENEFIT OF ACTING LIKE A PARK,

20:42:00 GREAT FOR A DOG PARK.

20:42:03 WE WANT IT TO SERVE, WE WANT THIS TO BE ONE OF THE

20:42:09 PRIMARY POINTS OF ACCESS TO THAT TRAIL HEAD.

20:42:19 FURTHER, JUST ONE FOLLOW-UP ON THE VACATING ITSELF.

20:42:23 IF IT'S APPROVED, THE DEVELOPER WOULD HANDLE ALL THOSE

20:42:27 IMPROVEMENTS, ALL THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE, AND AGAIN

20:42:30 EASEMENTS WILL BE GRANTED BACK TO THE CITY.

20:42:32 SO IT WOULD FUNCTION AS IT WAS OPEN.

20:42:34 IT WOULD BE IMPROVED AS A PASSIVE PARK.

20:42:37 IT WOULD HAVE THE CONNECTIVITY.

20:42:38 IT WOULD HAVE THE RAIL PAD.

20:42:40 AND WE WOULD SIMPLY OWN IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT, WHICH IS

20:42:47 NO POSITION TO DO THAT THAN THE CITY BECAUSE THEY WILL BE

20:42:50 IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR TO IT.

20:42:52 SO THAT'S IT ON THE VACATING SIDE.

20:42:55 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON IT NOW.

20:42:57 OR I CAN GO INTO THE REZONING AND ANSWER QUESTIONS ON

20:43:00 BOTH.

20:43:00 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE VACATING?

20:43:02 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:43:04 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NOT A QUESTION.

20:43:08 MR. GARDNER -- OFF WHAT YOU PROVIDED ELEVATION, ON PAGE

20:43:16 3, IT LOOKS LIKE THE APARTMENTS ARE DOWN ON THE FIRST

20:43:19 FLOOR.

20:43:22 >>TRUETT GARDNER: CORRECT.

20:43:23 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ALSO I SEE SOME ACCESS ON THIS

20:43:28 ELEVATION.

20:43:29 WHEN I LOOK AT THAT PICTURE THERE, IT IMPLIES MAYBE

20:43:35 COMMERCIAL?

20:43:42 >>TRUETT GARDNER: I SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING

20:43:44 ABOUT.

20:43:44 AND WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, I AM GOING TO GET INTO

20:43:47 COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

20:43:48 BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE GOT EARLY ON WAS FOR

20:43:54 COMMERCIAL, THE FEELING IS SINCE IT'S INTERNAL TO A

20:43:57 BLOCK, THE ONLY THING WORSE THAN NOT PROVIDING COMMERCIAL

20:43:59 IS PROVIDING COMMERCIAL THAT DOESN'T WORK.

20:44:03 THE OUTREACH TURNED OUT TO BE THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT

20:44:07 WHAT THEY DID ASK FOR WAS TO TRY TO ACTIVATE THAT GROUND

20:44:11 LEVEL.

20:44:12 SO INITIALLY, ALL THOSE UNITS DID NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO

20:44:16 ACCESS THEM FROM THE STREET LEVEL.

20:44:19 WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT SUGGESTION, WENT BACK TO THE

20:44:22 DRAWING BOARD, AND BASICALLY ALL THOSE GROUND FLOOR UNITS

20:44:26 ARE WALK-UPS SIMILAR TO A BROWNSTONE TYPE DEVELOPMENT YOU

20:44:30 WOULD SEE.

20:44:30 SO WE FELT THAT WAS A GREAT SUGGESTION AND PLAYED THE

20:44:33 CHANGES AS A RESULT OF IT.

20:44:35 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS THAT CAME

20:44:36 ALONG BARK IN THIS AREA BEHIND U.T., LINDA SAUL-SENA AND

20:44:42 I WERE IN THE SAME POSITION, IT WAS 15 YEARS AGO.

20:44:48 >> THAT WAS PRETTY NORMAL FOR THE TWO OF YOU.

20:44:50 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN DOING IT.

20:44:51 BUT WE BOTH ASKED FOR THAT GROUND FLOOR WALK-DOWN ACCESS.

20:44:55 AND WHEN I DRIVE BY, I STILL SEE IT TODAY.

20:44:58 AND I THINK IT'S KIND OF NICE, BECAUSE PERHAPS PEOPLE

20:45:00 ACTUALLY USE IT.

20:45:02 INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO INTO THE BUILDING OR USE THEIR

20:45:05 CAR OR WHATEVER.

20:45:06 MAYBE THEY CAN JUST WALK OUT THEIR STEPS AND BE RIGHT

20:45:09 THERE.

20:45:09 >> AND ONE OF THE GROUPS WE WERE TALKING TO FELT THAT AND

20:45:13 THEY HAD A STUDY TO REFLECT IT THAT THE RENTS WERE HIGHER

20:45:16 ON THOSE GROUND FLOORS WITH THE ACCESS, MAINLY THIS IS

20:45:21 ANECDOTAL, BUT WITH A PATH MUCH BETTER TO WALK DIRECTLY

20:45:25 OUT THAN WALK THROUGH THE CORRIDORS AND OUT.

20:45:27 AGAIN WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT SUGGESTION AND

20:45:29 INCORPORATED IT INTO THE PLAN.

20:45:32 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WE ARE NOT REPRESENTING COMMERCIAL

20:45:35 HERE.

20:45:37 >>TRUETT GARDNER: NO.

20:45:39 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PIGGYBACKING ON THAT I LIKE THE

20:45:42 ACCESS ON THAT ACCESS ON THAT GROUND LEVEL.

20:45:46 HOW ABOUT THOSE PALM TREES?

20:45:47 CAN WE HAVE REGULAR SHADE TREES?

20:45:50 PEOPLE ARE USING THOSE ACCESS POINTS.

20:45:52 IS THAT AN ISSUE WHERE CONCRETE PROVIDES LITTLE TO

20:45:56 NOTHING.

20:45:59 >>TRUETT GARDNER: WE ARE NOT COMMITTED AT THIS POINT TO

20:46:01 ANY SPECIMEN TREE.

20:46:02 I CAN TELL YOU IT'S A TIGHT AND CHALLENGING SITE.

20:46:06 AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME ACTIVE LINES ABOVE.

20:46:10 BUT THE CITY CODE PROVIDES A WHOLE HOST OF TREES THAT

20:46:14 WORK, THAT STAY OUT OF THE POWER LINES.

20:46:16 >> SO YOU ARE NOT COMMITTED TOTE PALM TREES?

20:46:19 >> NO.

20:46:20 THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOR THE PALMS, FOR THE

20:46:22 ARCHITECT, THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY SEE THE

20:46:25 TREES BUT SEE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING BUT WE ARE

20:46:27 NOT COMMITTED TO PALMS.

20:46:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST AS A SUGGESTION FOR TREES THAT

20:46:33 DO OFFER SHADE AND WHAT NOT, SINCE YOU FOCUS SO MUCH ON

20:46:37 THAT GROUND LEVEL ACCESS, SO PEOPLE WILL BE UTILIZING

20:46:40 THAT SIDEWALK.

20:46:42 >>TRUETT GARDNER: I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT.

20:46:43 WE'LL PASS IT ON.

20:46:44 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

20:46:46 AND I ALSO HAVE A SUGGESTION THAT YOU HAVE A SUBWAY ON

20:46:50 THE FIRST FLOOR.

20:46:51 [ LAUGHTER ]

20:46:54 >>TRUETT GARDNER: THANK YOU.

20:46:55 DULY NOTED.

20:46:56 BUT NOT A RUBY TUESDAY'S.

20:47:02 ON THE REZONING, MOST OF THE OBJECTIONS WERE ON THE

20:47:05 VACATING SIDE.

20:47:06 I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON THE REZONING.

20:47:10 AS MARY STATED, STAFF FOUND IT TO BE CONSISTENT.

20:47:14 THAT INCLUDED PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE PLANNING

20:47:16 AND ZONING STAFF.

20:47:17 WE DO HAVE THE ONE TECHNICAL OBJECTION ON TRANSPORTATION.

20:47:22 WITH RESPECT TO NOTICES AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH, ALL WE

20:47:25 HAVE HEARD IS NOTHING BUT POSITIVES.

20:47:27 I HAVE GOT FOUR LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT I WILL SUBMIT AT

20:47:30 THE END.

20:47:32 SO NOTHING BUT POSITIVES THERE.

20:47:34 PEOPLE REALLY GET THIS.

20:47:36 UNDERSTAND IT.

20:47:37 WHEN WE TALK THROUGH THEM ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS,

20:47:39 THE LIGHT BULB WENT ON ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT

20:47:43 THE SITE CURRENTLY IS USED FOR.

20:47:45 AND WITH RESPECT TO PARKING, TWO THINGS.

20:47:48 ONE, I HAVE A LETTER THAT WAS ACTUALLY JUST MODIFIED

20:47:51 TONIGHT THAT I WILL SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD.

20:47:56 THIS IS FROM OUR CONSULTANTS AND KIMLEY-HORN.

20:47:59 AND THE CONCLUSION IS, AGAIN, WE ARE PROPOSING 333

20:48:07 PARKING SPACES, TOTAL REQUIRED PROPOSED 382.

20:48:12 THAT'S THE 13% REDUCTION.

20:48:15 AND KIMLEY-HORN DID A STUDY WHICH WE DID OUR OWN ANALYSIS

20:48:19 OF OTHER AREAS.

20:48:20 I AM GOING TO FOCUS ON ONE ASPECT OF THEIRS WHICH IS

20:48:23 USING THE TRIP GENERATION TABLE AND THEIR CONCLUSION WAS

20:48:28 THAT 329 WOULD BE REQUIRED, AND WE ARE PROVIDING 333.

20:48:33 I'LL SUBMIT THIS.

20:48:35 BUT THAT'S THEIR CONCLUSION.

20:48:38 AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S AN OFFICIAL LETTER FROM THE

20:48:40 TRANSPORTATION ANALYST AND SIGNED AND SEALED.

20:48:43 THE COMPARISON THAT WE DID, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY

20:48:45 INTERESTING FOR COUNCIL, AND I KNOW THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN

20:48:48 COMING UP, BUT REALLY SO YOU CAN SEE IT.

20:48:50 SO WITH THIS NORTH HYDE PARK AREA OBVIOUSLY ADJACENT TO

20:48:54 DOWNTOWN, VERY URBAN, INTENDED TO BE VERY URBAN, SO WHAT

20:48:59 WE DID IS WE TOOK OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, 251 UNITS,

20:49:05 ONCE YOU APPLIED CITY CODE YOU SEND END UP WITH 33

20:49:08 PARKING SPACES WHICH INCLUDES NOT ONLY THE SPACES FOR THE

20:49:12 UNITS BUT ALSO THE VISITOR COUNT, AND SO 333 MATCHES WITH

20:49:17 THE 3282 REQUIRED, THAT'S OUR 13% REDUCTION.

20:49:21 AND WHEN YOU LOOK TO SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, WHICH I THINK YOU

20:49:24 CAN ARGUE IS LESS DENSE THAN THIS AREA, AND INTENDED TO

20:49:28 BE LESS DENSE THAN THIS AREA, THEY HAVE THE SAME GENERAL

20:49:33 PARKING REQUIREMENT.

20:49:34 THEY DO NOT HAVE THEIR OWN PARKING CODES, DO NOT HAVE

20:49:38 THAT VISITOR REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO WAIVE SO OFTEN,

20:49:42 BUT SMARTLY THEY HAVE OFFSETS, IF YOU NEED BICYCLE

20:49:44 PARKING, IT OFFSETS IF YOU DO MOTORCYCLE PARKING.

20:49:48 SO WE HAVE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT 55 BIKE PARKING SPACES AND

20:49:54 13 MOTORCYCLE SPACES THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING CREDIT FOR.

20:49:58 SO IF THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS JUST IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS

20:50:00 ALONE, PARKING REQUIRED WOULD BE 261, WE ARE PROVIDING

20:50:05 233.

20:50:06 MORE TELLING DOWNTOWN TO THE CBD AND THE CHANNEL

20:50:09 DISTRICT, WHEN YOU APPLY THOSE, I THINK PROBABLY THE BEST

20:50:14 ANALOGY IS THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, ON THE EAST SIDE OF

20:50:17 DOWNTOWN. THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

20:50:19 THOSE HAVE THE SAME PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

20:50:22 IF THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS IN EITHER OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT

20:50:24 OR THE CDB, 152 SPACES REQUIRED WHICH IS BASICALLY HALF

20:50:30 OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING.

20:50:32 SO WITH THAT WE FEEL THAT THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE

20:50:36 PARKING WAIVER IS FAIR AND REASONABLE.

20:50:39 THE LAST THING THIS DEVELOPER WANTS, AND ITS END LENDING

20:50:44 PARTNERS, IS TO CREATE A DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T PARK

20:50:45 ITSELF AND FAILS AS A RESULT OF IT.

20:50:48 WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING, AND THIS

20:50:51 TRULY IS GOING TO BE AN ATTAINABLE PROJECT.

20:50:54 THE COST OF THESE SPACES IS EXORBITANT SO YOU NEED TO

20:50:57 KEEP THOSE DOWN.

20:50:59 I THINK WE COULD ARGUE THAT FURTHER JUSTIFICATION IS

20:51:02 WARRANTED BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED.

20:51:04 BUT WE FEEL THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AND HOPE IT'S

20:51:10 JUSTIFIED IN YOUR EYES.

20:51:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC, WHO DO YOU

20:51:17 LOOK AT, YOUR CUSTOMER BASE HERE?

20:51:20 IS IT GOING TO BE STUDENTS?

20:51:22 >>TRUETT GARDNER: THAT QUESTION HAS COME UP ALL THE TIME.

20:51:24 THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A STUDENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

20:51:28 THOSE ARE SPECIALIZED DEVELOPERS THAT DO THOSE.

20:51:31 THERE PROBABLY WILL BE SOME STUDENTS, BUT IT WILL BE

20:51:34 CONTROLLED, WHEN YOU HAVE A STUDENT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT,

20:51:37 IT'S ITS OWN MANAGEMENT GROUP THAT SPECIALIZES.

20:51:40 THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE AT ALL.

20:51:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE

20:51:45 NOT EVERYBODY OWNS A CAR OR CHOOSES TO OWN A CAR.

20:51:47 YOU ARE PROVIDING AN ADD QUALITY NUMBER, I BELIEVE A

20:51:50 SMALL REDUCTION CONSIDERING THE SIZE, AND THE VICINITY OF

20:51:54 DOWNTOWN, AND THE PLACES THAT POTENTIAL RESIDENTS COULD

20:51:59 BE WORKING OUT, WHATEVER, TO GET AROUND.

20:52:03 I DON'T THINK IT'S AN UNREASONABLE WAIVER REQUEST.

20:52:06 AND IF THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY FOUND IT

20:52:08 INCONSISTENT, THIS IS NOTHING.

20:52:15 >>TRUETT GARDNER: AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON FOR THE

20:52:17 INCONSISTENCY.

20:52:17 THAT BEING SAID, IN FULL CANDOR, WE HAVE AS I MENTIONED

20:52:20 BEFORE, IT'S A CHALLENGING SITE.

20:52:22 WE HAVE GOT A TOTAL OF 7 WAIVERS.

20:52:24 I HAVE GOT JUSTIFICATIONS FOR EACH OF THOSE 7.

20:52:27 ONE OF THE 7 IS THE PARKING.

20:52:29 WHICH WE TOUCHED ON.

20:52:31 SO ON REBUTTAL, OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS NOW ON ANY OF

20:52:34 THOSE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM.

20:52:37 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

20:52:40 >>TRUETT GARDNER: I WILL JUST CLOSE WITH SUBMITTING FOUR

20:52:42 LETTERS FOR THE RECORD FROM IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AS WELL

20:52:47 AS STAKEHOLDERS, AND ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY

20:52:53 WANTED TO EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT.

20:52:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

20:53:00 AND NOTHING ELSE, MR. GARDNER?

20:53:03 >>TRUETT GARDNER: NOT AT THIS TIME, NO.

20:53:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

20:53:05 IS ANYONE HERE TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON ITEMS 11 AND 12?

20:53:09 IF SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

20:53:10 >> MY NAME IS LOLITA WHITEFIELD AND I INTEND TO BE

20:53:29 PRESENT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT, BUT DUE TO THIS PROJECT

20:53:31 BEING THIS NUMBER 11 AND 12 ON THE AGENDA, I EXPECT A

20:53:38 LATE NIGHT AND I COULD NOT ATTEND.

20:53:40 I HAVE GAINED POSITION FOR MY LETTER TO BE READ.

20:53:48 THE FIRST LETTER IS FROM THE REZONING OF 1102 WEST

20:53:56 CARMEN.

20:53:57 HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM WRITING FOR REQUEST FOR

20:54:03 11302 NORTH CARMEN STREET FROM IG TO PD FOR MICHAEL

20:54:09 FAMILY PROJECT.

20:54:10 THE PROJECT HAS BEEN REDESIGNED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE

20:54:13 NORTH OF HYDE PARK STREET LIGHT AND HAS CONSIDERED

20:54:17 CURRENT AND FUTURE CONNECTIONS TO ALTERNATE MODES OF

20:54:21 TRANSIT.

20:54:22 AND SOON TO BE INSTALLED CYCLE TRACKS ON CASS AND

20:54:29 OPPORTUNITIES FOR CHS TO RAIL.

20:54:33 AS OUR URBAN DEVELOPMENT GROWS, IT ALSO IS IMPORTANT THAT

20:54:38 DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS SET ASIDE UNITS FOR MORE AFFORDABLE

20:54:43 RATES AND PROVIDE VARIETY TO ACCOMMODATE THE VARIETY

20:54:48 TYPE.

20:54:50 THIS PROJECT IS HAIL QUALIFIED DESIGN, AND FILLING THE

20:54:57 NORTH HYDE PARK AREA IN ADDITION TO THE PROJECT TEAM HAS

20:55:01 PROVIDED SUFFICIENT INVESTMENT TO THE WALKABILITY OF THE

20:55:08 NORTH HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD BY SKY WALKS IMPROVEMENT TO

20:55:13 THAT COMMUNITY.

20:55:15 I HOPE YOU WILL AGREE AND WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THIS

20:55:19 PROJECT.

20:55:20 THIS IS BY TELLA GRAFF.

20:55:26 I HAD INTENDED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

20:55:29 DUE TO THIS PROJECT BEING LISTED NUMBER 11 AND 12 ON THE

20:55:33 AGENDA, I EXPECT LATE NIGHT AND I CANNOT ATTEND.

20:55:38 I HAVE GIVEN PERMISSION FOR MY NOTICE TO BE SUPPORTED AND

20:55:41 READ.

20:55:42 THIS IS FROM THE URBAN RETREAT.

20:55:45 I AM WRITING YOU TO LEND MY SUPPORT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT

20:55:50 THAT IS PLANNED FOR NORTH OF HYDE PARK AS THE MANAGER OF

20:55:53 THE URBAN -- IS MY TIME UP?

20:55:56 [BELL SOUNDS]

20:55:57 >>LUIS VIERA: 30 SECONDS.

20:55:57 >> FOR THE URBAN, A DOG CARE AND BOARDING RESORT.

20:56:08 AND THE VALUE OF SURROUNDING AREA.

20:56:10 THIS PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS OVERLOOKED, AND A

20:56:13 PROJECT LIKE THIS OPENS OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUSINESSES

20:56:16 AROUND NORTH HYDE PARK TO FLOURISH.

20:56:21 NOT CREATING A NEW --

20:56:23 [BELL SOUNDS]

20:56:24 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

20:56:25 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THOSE, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT

20:56:28 THOSE.

20:56:33 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

20:56:34 WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

20:56:35 NEXT, PLEASE.

20:56:35 >> 500 WATER STREET, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, CSX OBJECTS

20:56:45 TO THE VACANCY OF THAT PORTION OF CARMEN STREET.

20:56:49 IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD THAT'S IN THERE FOR ALMOST AS LONG AS

20:56:52 THE RAILROAD HAS BEEN THERE.

20:56:54 ELIMINATING THAT ACCESS, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE

20:56:57 OTHER ACCESSES.

20:56:58 BUT AS YOU HAVE SEEN, DIFFERENT ACCESS ROUTES HAVE

20:57:03 ALREADY BEEN CUT OFF.

20:57:04 WE WANT TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE ACCESS RIGHTS THAT WE

20:57:07 HAVE.

20:57:07 VEHICULAR ACCESS THROUGH A PARK IS GOING TO REQUIRE

20:57:11 COORDINATION, IT'S GOING TO DAMAGE OUR PROPERTY VALUE, WE

20:57:15 DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD ELIMINATE MORE ACCESS FOR

20:57:18 A DOG PARK.

20:57:19 AND THEN WE ARE ABOUT PROTECTING THE RAILROAD PROPERTY.

20:57:25 THEY HAVE THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY CAN DEVELOP ON.

20:57:26 THERE'S NO NEED TO VACATE THAT STREET.

20:57:29 THEY CAN JUST PUT THE DOG PARK SOMEWHERE ON THEIR

20:57:32 PROPERTY OR ELIMINATE IT ALTOGETHER.

20:57:35 CSX HAS THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT.

20:57:39 AND IT COULD DAMAGE OUR TRANSACTION IF THE ROADWAY IS

20:57:44 CLOSED.

20:57:44 I DON'T KNOW IF THE BUYER WOULD WALK AWAY AND THEN WE

20:57:47 WOULD REALLY BE DAMAGED BY THAT.

20:57:48 WE JUST WANT TO OBJECT.

20:57:50 SO ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE SETBACK, 3 FEET FROM THE

20:57:54 PROPERTY LINE TO THE CSX RAILWAY PROPERTY CORRIDOR, HOW

20:57:59 ARE THEY GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT BUILDING?

20:58:01 HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR WORK ON IT,

20:58:05 MAINTENANCE, PAINTING, WHATEVER HAPPENS.

20:58:07 SO AGAIN, ARE WE GOING TO BE DAMAGED BY THEM NEEDING TO

20:58:11 COME ONTO OUR PROPERTY WANTING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL

20:58:13 PROPERTY TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THEIR BUILDING?

20:58:16 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.

20:58:17 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

20:58:19 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: QUESTION.

20:58:24 UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE

20:58:25 GOING TO LEAVE THE OTHER 25 FEET FOR THE ADJACENT PARCEL.

20:58:31 >> I THROAT IT WAS A 3-FOOT SETBACK.

20:58:34 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S FLIPPED THE STREET IN HALF.

20:58:36 I THINK THE STREET IS 50 FEET WIDE.

20:58:38 >> OH, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CARMEN, NOT THE SETBACK

20:58:41 BUILDING.

20:58:42 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE WE ARE ON A DIFFERENT PLANE

20:58:44 THEN.

20:58:45 BUT MY QUESTION TO CSX, ARE THE PICTURES, IT DOESN'T

20:58:49 APPEAR THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN USING THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY TO

20:58:51 GET TO YOUR PROPERTY.

20:58:52 IS THAT CORRECT?

20:58:53 >> WE USE IT NOT ALL OF THE TAME.

20:58:56 WITH THE RAILROADS, WE HAVE SITES ALL OVER THE PLACE

20:58:59 WHERE WHEN WE DO USE A PROPERTY, IT MIGHT BE EVERY NINE

20:59:03 YEARS, BUT WHEN WE NEED IT WE REALLY NEED IT.

20:59:06 SO TO SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE DAILY USE OF IT, WE PROBABLY

20:59:09 DON'T.

20:59:09 BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT AT SOME POINT WE WOULDN'T NEED

20:59:12 IT AND WE HAVE BEEN MARKETING THIS PROPERTY WITH THOSE

20:59:15 ACCESS POINTS.

20:59:16 AND SO WE HAVE BEEN MARKETING IT FOR TWO YEARS.

20:59:20 SO WE FINALLY ARE UNDER CONTRACT AND NOW THIS HAS COME UP

20:59:23 AND IT COULD BE VERY DAMAGING TO US.

20:59:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO YOUR TRACK RUNS DOWN THROUGH THE

20:59:31 MIDDLE OF THAT, CORRECTED?

20:59:32 >> OUR TRACK IS MORE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT.

20:59:35 AND SO OUR SETBACK FROM THE CENTER LINE IS 20-FOOT.

20:59:40 FROM THE CENTER LINE OF TRACK.

20:59:41 SO WE ARE SELLING AN 80-FOOT CORRIDOR TO A POTENTIAL

20:59:46 DEVELOPER.

20:59:47 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT'S AN 80-FOOT CORRIDOR.

20:59:50 >> SO WE HAVE OUR 20-FOOT, MAYBE IT'S 65 FEET.

20:59:56 I THINK TOTAL IT'S 85 FEET.

21:00:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DOES YOUR CORRIDOR EXTEND DOWN TO

21:00:02 THROWS OTHER STREETS THAT I MADE REFERENCE TO, FIG?

21:00:04 >> YES.

21:00:04 DEFINITELY DOWN FIG AND THERE IS SOME CONNECTIVITY FROM

21:00:08 NORTH A, NORTH B.

21:00:10 BUT THOSE AREN'T AS PRIME ACCESS ROUTES AS FIG AND CARMEN

21:00:15 ARE.

21:00:16 SO NOW YOU HAVE GOT TO TAKE THIS -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU

21:00:20 HAVE DRIVEN IT BUT IT'S VERY NARROW. YOU HAVE DONATION

21:00:24 CENTER THERE.

21:00:25 YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET SO IT'S

21:00:27 NOT A GREAT ACCESS ROUTE AS CARMEN AND FIG TO GET TO THAT

21:00:31 CORRIDOR.

21:00:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

21:00:33 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

21:00:36 GO AHEAD, SIR.

21:00:37 >> BRUCE RAINS, 2910 NORTH 16th STREET.

21:00:48 I INTENDED TO BE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT BUT DUE TO THIS

21:00:52 PROJECT BEING LISTED NUMBER 11 AND 12 ON THE AGENDA, IT'S

21:00:58 A LATE NIGHT AND I COULD NOT ATTEND.

21:01:00 I HAVE GIVEN PERMISSION FROM MY LETTER OF THE SUPPORT TO

21:01:04 BE READ, REZONE 92-1116 WEST CARMEN STREET, APARTMENTS.

21:01:12 ON BEHALF OF CARLOS RAMIREZ, I AM WRITING TODAY AS A

21:01:16 CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND NOT AS A BOARD MEMBER OF

21:01:19 THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION OF THE NORTH HYDE PARK.

21:01:23 I HAVE SPOKEN TO MR. CORN AND ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS

21:01:29 PROJECT.

21:01:30 I HAVE LISTENED TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO

21:01:35 CONTINUE THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA.

21:01:39 WE HAVE HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST WITH HEAVY POPULATION AND

21:01:44 SPILLING INTO THE NEXT MORNING AND CAUSE ISSUE WITH

21:01:47 NOISE, PROPERTY AND DAMAGING OUR AREA.

21:01:49 MY CONCERN FOR THE MEMBER OF STUDENTS RENTING THESE UNITS

21:01:53 WAS ADDRESSED BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS THAT

21:01:55 CAN BE LEASED TO APPLICANTS WITH A COSIGNER.

21:02:01 EXISTING COMPLEX IN THIS AREA ONE THIRD ARE EMPTY BECAUSE

21:02:05 OF THE RESIDENT CHOSE TO PARK IN THE STREET.

21:02:07 THIS CAUSES PROBLEMS FOR EXISTING HOMEOWNERS AND AREA

21:02:12 BUSINESS HOE RELY ON STREET PARKING.

21:02:15 WITH THE NEW RESTAURANT AND BUSINESS COMING IN THE AREA,

21:02:19 PARKING WILL CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE.

21:02:23 I SPOKE WITH MR. CORN AND HIS TEAM AND ALLOWED THE FIRST

21:02:28 FLOOR OF THE GARAGE FOR VISITOR PUBLIC PARKING WITH TAME

21:02:31 RESTRICTIONS TO ELEVATE SOME OF THE PARKING ISSUES.

21:02:34 WE HAVE ALLOWED VISITORS OF NEARBY RESTAURANT BUSINESSES

21:02:38 TO UTILIZE THESE SPOTS.

21:02:41 THE EXHIBITS WE WERE SHOWN CONTAIN PALM TREES, ENCOURAGE

21:02:46 ALL DEVELOPERS TO USE THE SHADE TREES THAT WILL ALLOW

21:02:52 SOME RELIEF OF THE FLORIDA SUN.

21:02:55 AND SPEAKING TO MR. COHEN, HE AGREES TO INCLUDE

21:03:01 SHADE-PRODUCING TREES IN THE AREA.

21:03:04 I AM IN SUPPORT OF REZONING OF THE PROJECT.

21:03:06 THANK YOU.

21:03:06 CARLOS RAMIREZ.

21:03:11 SECOND, I INTEND TO BE PRESENT AND SPEAKING --

21:03:15 [BELL SOUNDS]

21:03:16 BUT DUE TO THE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE

21:03:23 NORTH OF HYDE PARK.

21:03:24 FOR YEARS THE COMMUNITY ASKED ABOUT THE DIVISION OF

21:03:28 TRANSPORTATION, HAS TAKEN THE APPROACH LOCATED CSX RAIL,

21:03:34 THE POSSIBILITY OF FUTURE PUBLIC USE IN ORDER TO SHOW

21:03:36 TRANSIT AVAILABILITY IN OUR CITY AND WE NEED TO DEVELOP

21:03:42 AND STEP UP DEVELOPMENT TRANSIT CORRIDORS WITH THE --

21:03:46 [BELL SOUNDS]

21:03:48 >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU WOULD LIKE, SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP BUT

21:03:50 YOU CAN SUBMIT THOSE AND WE'LL TAKE THOSE LETTERS.

21:03:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

21:03:53 >> OKAY.

21:03:55 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

21:03:58 NEXT, PLEASE.

21:03:58 >> CASE I ALSTON, 1717 EAST 9th AVENUE AND I HAVE NOT

21:04:10 BEEN SWORN.

21:04:11 >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE SWORN, THIS IS YOUR

21:04:13 OPPORTUNITY.

21:04:14 AND IF ANYBODY ELSE IS PLANNING ON SPEAKING THIS EVENING

21:04:16 AND YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN THEN YOU MAY RISE IF YOU ARE

21:04:18 ABLE TO DO SO AND PREPARE TO EXPERIENCE BEING SWORN IN BY

21:04:21 MR. JIM CREW.

21:04:22 (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).

21:04:28 >> I DO.

21:04:32 THIS IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF URBAN DESIGN.

21:04:36 CASEY ELLISON, 1717 EAST 7th AVENUE. THIS IS AN

21:04:40 EXAMPLE OF URBAN DESIGN.

21:04:43 THESE ARE THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN

21:04:45 THE CITY OF TAMPA.

21:04:46 IT HAS AN ATTAINABLE HOUSING ELEMENT TO IT.

21:04:49 IT HAS GREAT ROOM DESIGN.

21:04:51 I PERSONALLY HAVE VISITED WING SPAN'S PROJECTS IN THE

21:04:54 CHICAGO AREA AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERYTHING THEY DO

21:04:56 IS FIRST CLASS.

21:04:57 AND WE AS A CITY SHOULD EMBRACE DEVELOPERS LIKE WING SPAN

21:05:03 TO COME HERE TO OUR CITY.

21:05:06 THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN COHEN AND WING SPAN IS A STRONG

21:05:09 ONE.

21:05:10 AND I THINK THAT TONIGHT WE SHOULD THANK THEM FOR ALL THE

21:05:14 HARD WORK THEY PUT INTO THIS, AND THE EXCELLENCE THAT

21:05:17 THEY ARE BRINGING HERE TO OUR CITY.

21:05:18 AND I MOVE YOU GUYS TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

21:05:22 THANK YOU.

21:05:23 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

21:05:23 NEXT, PLEASE.

21:05:25 AND AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN IS ANYONE ELSE PLANNING ON

21:05:27 SPEAKING THIS EVENING ON THESE ITEMS?

21:05:28 >> DERRICK SECKINGER, GREEN GAUGE LANE.

21:05:35 I AM HERE TO LEND MY SUPPORT TO THIS PROJECT.

21:05:38 HAS ANYONE WHO KNOWS THIS AREA VERY WELL SOUTH OF CASS

21:05:41 STREET AND TO THE EAST OF WILLOW, IT IS HIGHLY

21:05:45 INDUSTRIALIZED AREA.

21:05:46 I THINK THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION

21:05:50 AND ALSO HELP CHANGE THE AREA.

21:05:52 IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH DEVELOPMENT THAT'S

21:05:54 GOING ON IN THE CITY.

21:05:56 AND I THINK SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HAPPENED IN NORTH HYDE

21:05:59 PARK, AND BASICALLY REDEVELOP THAT WHOLE AREA.

21:06:05 SO IT ALSO IN REFERENCE TO THE CSX, THE VACATING, THE

21:06:10 COMMENT MADE BY CSX, THE VACATING OF THAT PROPERTY, I CAN

21:06:14 TELL YOU IF ANYONE HAS DRIVEN BY THAT PROPERTY MAYBE

21:06:16 TAKEN A SHORTCUT TRYING TO BYPASS CASS STREET

21:06:19 DEVELOPMENT, THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON, YOU WILL SEE

21:06:22 THAT PROJECT, THAT GATE PROBABLY HASN'T BEEN OPENED IN

21:06:25 TEN YEARS.

21:06:26 THE GROWTH IS SO HIGH THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO WALK

21:06:29 THROUGH THAT.

21:06:29 SO TO SAY THAT IT'S A WALKABLE, I WOULD DEFINITELY

21:06:34 DISAGREE WITH THAT.

21:06:36 AND THERE'S A BIG ACCESS TO THE SOUTH ON FIG STREET.

21:06:39 IN FACT, IT WAS SO BAD ON FIG STREET THE DUMPING THAT WAS

21:06:43 GOING ON ON THE CSX PROPERTY WAS NOT MAINTAINED THAT BIG

21:06:47 BARRIERS WERE PUT UP TO KEEP THE DUMPING FROM BEING HAD

21:06:51 OVER THERE.

21:06:52 SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ADDITION.

21:06:54 I THINK THE GREEN SPACE FOR THE DOGS IS A GREAT IDEA.

21:06:57 AND AGAIN, JUST LEND MY SUPPORT TO THE PROJECT IN

21:07:00 GENERAL.

21:07:00 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

21:07:04 ANY REBUTTAL OR ANYTHING FURTHER, MR. GUARDER?

21:07:08 >>TRUETT GARDNER: I DID.

21:07:08 AND I TRIED TO SOMEWHAT CONTAIN MYSELF BECAUSE THE REASON

21:07:11 FOR THE CONTINUANCE THE LAST TIME WAS FOR CSX AS I

21:07:15 MENTIONED BEGINNING.

21:07:16 WE WERE PROPOSING TO VACATE CARMEN AND FIG SO THEY COULD

21:07:20 KEEP ACCESS.

21:07:23 WE DECIDED TO DROP FIG AND A LOT OF THOUGHT WEPT INTO

21:07:27 THAT.

21:07:27 WE ACTUALLY LOST UNITS AS A RESULT OF IT.

21:07:29 WE DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE CASE LAW.

21:07:31 IT'S VERY WELL SETTLED THAT WHILE A PROPERTY OWNER WITH

21:07:36 ADJACENT PROPERTY IS ENTITLED TO ACCESS, IT'S NOT

21:07:38 ENTITLED TO EACH AND EVERY ACCESS POINT THAT IT DESIRES.

21:07:43 FIGURING INTO OUR DECISION TO DECIDE ON CARMEN VERSUS

21:07:48 FIG, AND AGAIN THIS GOES TO THE USAGE THAT WAS STATED,

21:07:55 HOW THEY UTILIZE THESE.

21:07:57 IF YOU WILL LOOK, THIS IS FIG.

21:07:59 THEY HAVE GOT A SERIES OF JERSEY BARRIERS, I DON'T KNOW

21:08:03 WHEN THE LAST TIME THAT WAS USED, BUT THIS ASSERTION ON

21:08:08 CARMEN BEING USED, I FLOW THE GENTLEMAN IN FRONT OF ME

21:08:11 JUST MENTIONED THIS.

21:08:13 THIS IS THE CURRENT STATE OF THAT.

21:08:14 I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME THAT WAS USED BUT IT

21:08:17 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYTIME AT ALL.

21:08:23 LASTLY, THE ISSUE WITH AN AGENCY LIKE CSX THAT GETS UP

21:08:26 HERE AS A QUASI-PUBLIC AGENCY WANTING TO MAIN TAPE ITS

21:08:30 ACCESS POINTS, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME AS THE CSX

21:08:35 REPRESENTATIVE ADMITTED THEY HAVE GOT THIS PROJECT FOR

21:08:38 SALE TO A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER.

21:08:41 SO ON THE ONE HAND SAYING WE ARE A QUASI-PUBLIC AGENCY,

21:08:45 WE WANT TO MAKE ACCESS POINTS, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND TO

21:08:48 SAY WE ARE TRYING TO ENHANCE OUR PROPERTY VALUES SO WE

21:08:50 CAN MAKE THE MOST MONEY ON A SALE TO A PRIVATE PROPERTY

21:08:54 OWNER.

21:08:55 WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY

21:08:57 HAVE.

21:08:58 BUT I DO WANT TO RESTATE THOSE POINTS.

21:09:02 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES.

21:09:04 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S SO INTERESTING.

21:09:11 >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT THERE ON CASS WHEN I WAS A YOUNG

21:09:13 BOY, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA.

21:09:15 JUST CURIOUS.

21:09:16 HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT PROPERTY?

21:09:18 >> MAKE SURE I STATE THIS RIGHT.

21:09:24 BECAUSE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT.

21:09:27 THE ACREAGE ITSELF PRE-VACATING IS 1.77.

21:09:35 THE VACATING ITSELF THAT WE WOULD BE PICKING UP IS ONLY

21:09:39 2500 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS .05 ACRES.

21:09:43 FOR A TOTAL OF 1.28 ACRES.

21:09:46 >> >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS I AM STILL LOOKING AT THESE

21:09:48 PROJECTS IN THE ACREAGE, AND THE ACREAGE I HAVE OVER ON

21:09:52 THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.

21:09:55 BUT I WAS LISTENING TO THOSE WONDERFUL LETTERS THAT WERE

21:09:58 READ BY THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT TALKED ABOUT

21:10:01 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

21:10:03 ARE THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS?

21:10:06 >>TRUETT GARDNER: SO TO BE CLEAR, AS I MENTIONED AT THE

21:10:08 BEGINNING, THIS IS ATTAINABLE, WHICH IS SEPARATE AND

21:10:11 DISTINCT FROM AFFORDABLE.

21:10:13 AFFORDABLE HAS A COMPONENT TO IT OF SOME SORT OF PUBLIC

21:10:17 CONTRIBUTION.

21:10:17 THIS IS A STRAIGHT MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT IS

21:10:22 GEARED TOWARDS SMALLER, MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS, WITH A LOT

21:10:26 OF THESE UNITS HAVING RENTS HOPEFULLY ONCE THINGS SHAKE

21:10:29 OUT UNDER $1,000 A MONTH, WHICH IS REALLY UNHEARD OF IN

21:10:33 THIS AREA ESPECIALLY IN THE CBD.

21:10:41 YOU SHOULD GET TWO OF THEM.

21:10:43 [ LAUGHTER ]

21:10:46 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

21:10:50 OH, MA'AM, YOU MAY NOT.

21:10:52 SORRY.

21:10:52 TIME IS UP.

21:10:53 SORRY.

21:10:53 >> ONE BITE AT THE APPLE.

21:10:57 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE FROM COUNCIL?

21:10:58 OKAY.

21:10:59 MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?

21:11:02 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

21:11:03 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

21:11:05 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:11:06 ANY OPPOSED?

21:11:07 OKAY.

21:11:07 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER, WOULD YOU MIND TAKING NUMBER 11?

21:11:13 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WOULD BE GLAD TO.

21:11:14 I WOULD ASK MR. GARDNER IF HE HASN'T ALREADY THAT FOR

21:11:21 SALE FLYER THAT YOU HAD, IS THAT IN THE RECORD?

21:11:24 >> IT'S NOT BUT I AM HAPPY TO PUT IT INTO THE RECORD.

21:11:28 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IS THAT OKAY?

21:11:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO REOPEN.

21:11:36 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. SECONDED BY

21:11:38 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

21:11:39 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:11:40 ANY OPPOSED?

21:11:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLACE IT INTO THE RECORD.

21:11:47 MOTION TO CLOSE.

21:11:48 >>LUIS VIERA: BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

21:11:49 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

21:11:51 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:11:52 ANY OPPOSED?

21:11:54 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN REMAINED COUNCIL

21:11:56 THAT THE ORDINANCE IS THE ONE THAT WAS HANDED OUT TO YOU.

21:12:09 ACTUALLY WE ARE TAKING ONE AT A TIME.

21:12:11 WE'LL TAKE A MOTION AND VOTE ON 11.

21:12:14 AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO 12.

21:12:15 SO JUST READ THE TITLE OF THE VACATING PLEASE.

21:12:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IN REGARD TO VAC 19-27, I'LL MOVE THE

21:12:24 FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, AN ORDINANCE

21:12:26 VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING PORTIONS OF

21:12:29 RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN AS CARMEN STREET LYING SOUTH OF CASS

21:12:32 STREET NORTH OF NORTH B STREET EAST OF GILCHRIST AVENUE

21:12:35 WEST OF CSX RAILROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE IN THE CITY OF

21:12:40 TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA THE SAME BEING MORE

21:12:42 FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN

21:12:45 EASEMENT RESERVATIONS, COVENANTS, CONDITIONS, AND

21:12:48 RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING

21:12:51 AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

21:12:53 SPECIFICALLY, THAT'S A LITTLE STUB PORTION.

21:12:58 I'M NOT BIG ON VACATING ALLEYS OR STREETS AND YOU GUYS

21:13:01 NOTICE THAT.

21:13:02 BUT IN THIS CASE, IT'S A LITTLE DEAD-END STUB PORTION OF

21:13:05 THE STREET AMOUNTING TO 2500 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS NEXT

21:13:09 TO NOTHING.

21:13:11 CSX OBJECTS BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THEIR OBJECTIONS ARE,

21:13:16 WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE YOUNG LADY, I DON'T BELIEVE

21:13:18 THE OBJECTIONS ARE SUBSTANTIVE.

21:13:23 THEY HAVEN'T BEEN USING IT, THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY, FOR

21:13:27 ACCESS.

21:13:27 IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS, ALL OVERGROWN.

21:13:30 FRANKLY, THEIR FENCE WAS PROBABLY ILLEGAL TO START W.BUT

21:13:35 ANYWAY WITH, THAT I WILL MOVE THE VACATING.

21:13:37 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

21:13:40 CERTIFICATED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

21:13:41 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:13:42 ANY OPPOSED?

21:13:43 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

21:13:46 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY

21:13:49 6th, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

21:13:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MR. CHAIRMAN, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ

21:13:54 THE ORDINANCE?

21:13:55 >>LUIS VIERA: SURE, YOU MAY.

21:13:56 GO AHEAD, SIR.

21:13:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: REZ 19-92.

21:14:00 I'LL MOVE THE FOLLOWING ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.

21:14:03 AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF

21:14:05 1102, 1112 AND 1116 WEST CARMEN STREET IN THE CITY OF

21:14:10 TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION

21:14:12 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS IG INDUSTRIAL

21:14:16 GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL

21:14:19 MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

21:14:23 SPECIFICALLY, I BELIEVE THAT THE PETITIONER HAS MET ITS

21:14:38 BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL

21:14:41 EVIDENCE THAT THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SITE

21:14:45 PLAN AND TAMPA CITY OF TAMPA CODE SPECIFICALLY BUT FOR

21:14:49 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AND THE STAFF REPORTS ALL

21:14:54 INCORPORATE AS WELL AS OUR OWN STAFF REPORT, AND OUR OWN

21:14:57 STAFF MEMBER BECAUSE EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING REQUIREMENT

21:15:02 OUR CITY STAFF WAS IN SUPPORT.

21:15:04 IN REGARD TO THE PARKING REDUCTION, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE

21:15:07 PETITIONER HAS MET ITS BURDEN IN SHOWING US THE DISPARITY

21:15:15 THAT WE HAVE ON PARKING REQUIREMENTS IN SOME URBAN PARTS

21:15:17 OF TOWN, FOR EXAMPLE, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, WHERE THIS

21:15:20 PROJECT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED WITHOUT A WAIVER, AS

21:15:22 COMPARED TO THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WHICH HAS A STRICTER

21:15:27 REQUIREMENT.

21:15:28 AND I BELIEVE THAT WITH ALL THAT'S GOING ON THESE DAYS,

21:15:32 WITH RIDESHARING AND SCOOTERS AND THAT THIS IS KIND OF A

21:15:38 COLLEGE AREA, AND I HAVE GOT A FEELING THERE'S GOING TO

21:15:40 BE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE, A LOT OF COLLEGE PEOPLE WHO

21:15:43 DON'T HAVE AS MANY CARS AS WE DO, THAT IT JUSTIFIES THE

21:15:48 PARKING WAIVER.

21:15:49 >> I STILL SECOND.

21:15:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND ALSO IF YOU CAN THERE WOULD BE

21:15:55 PROVISIONS REQUIRED ON THE REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST

21:15:58 AND SECOND READING?

21:16:00 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

21:16:00 I INCORPORATE THAT.

21:16:01 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?

21:16:03 ANY OPPOSED?

21:16:04 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

21:16:06 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY

21:16:08 24th, 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

21:16:14 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ARE WE READY TO PROCEED?

21:16:39 >>LUIS VIERA: WE WILL WAIT UNTIL THEY MOVE OUT.

21:16:41 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: ALL RIGHT.

21:16:44 YOU'RE WELCOME.

21:16:46 THE LAST ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 13, IS REZ

21:17:03 19-97.

21:17:05 IT'S A REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED ON HOWARD

21:17:08 AVENUE, NASSAU STREET, GRACE STREET, FROM PLANNED

21:17:12 DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT

21:17:14 COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE FOR A HOTEL USE.

21:17:16 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] I'M A TRUSTEE OF

21:17:27 PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS SUBJECT PARCEL SO I WILL NOT BE

21:17:30 VOTING.

21:17:39 >>LUIS VIERA: UNDER FORM 9-D IT SAYS I'M TOO LATE.

21:17:47 GO AHEAD, SIR.

21:17:47 >> DANNY COLLINS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.

21:17:51 I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

21:17:52 OUR LAST CASE IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.

21:17:55 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IT'S IN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN

21:17:58 VILLAGE.

21:18:00 THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITH PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT.

21:18:03 THERE'S A TRANSIT STOP ON NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.

21:18:06 NORTH HOWARD IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS AND MIXED USE CORRIDOR

21:18:10 WHICH IS IDENTIFIED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

21:18:14 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IS VILLA BROTHERS

21:18:18 PARK WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN A HALF MAIL TO THE SOUTHWEST

21:18:21 OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

21:18:22 THE SITE IS WITHIN A LEVEL D EVACUATION ZONE.

21:18:31 THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

21:18:33 YOU WILL SEE THE SITE IS EXISTS OF THREE PARCELS, NORTH

21:18:38 HOWARD, IN THE COLOR PURPLE. THIS IS NORTH HOWARD HERE.

21:18:42 THIS IS WEST NASSAU STREET.

21:18:46 AND THIS IS CYPRESS STREET TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT

21:18:48 SITE.

21:18:54 THIS IS THE ADOPTIVE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

21:18:57 THE SITE HAS TWO FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES.

21:19:02 THIS RED REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND THEN

21:19:05 THIS BROWN REPRESENTS THE RESIDENTIAL 20, COMMUNITY

21:19:12 COMMERCIAL 35 FOUND UP AND DOWN NORTH HOWARD, THEN

21:19:16 TRANSITIONS TO THAT RESIDENTIAL 20 AND THEN RESIDENTIAL

21:19:20 10, THE ORANGISH TAN COLOR.

21:19:24 THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST TO BE

21:19:27 CONSISTENT WITH MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE

21:19:29 PLAN AS IT RELATES TO URBAN VILLAGES AND MIXED USE

21:19:34 DEVELOPMENT.

21:19:35 THE PD IS RETAINING A FRONT ENTRANCE ALONG NORTH HOWARD

21:19:38 AVENUE, PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND CONNECTING TO THE

21:19:41 EXISTING SIDEWALK.

21:19:43 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES THE REDEVELOPMENT OF

21:19:46 THE CITY'S HISTORIC STRUCTURES.

21:19:50 THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CIGAR FACTORY WILL

21:19:54 BECOME AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY AND WILL ENHANCE TAMPA'S

21:19:56 UNIQUE HISTORICAL CONTEXT.

21:19:58 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION

21:20:00 STAFF FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA

21:20:02 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

21:20:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

21:20:06 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID THIS AND I

21:20:07 APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED IT.

21:20:09 IS THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING ACTUALLY BEEN DESIGNATED

21:20:13 LOCALLY?

21:20:15 >> IT HAS HISTORIC BALDWIN BROTHERS CIGAR FACTORY.

21:20:22 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BUT IN ITS OUR HISTORIC REGISTRY?

21:20:26 >> I BELIEVE SO.

21:20:27 >> RON VILA, STAFF WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

21:20:34 THIS CIGAR FACTORY IS KNOWN AS THE TAMPA CUBAN AND

21:20:40 BALDWIN CIGAR FACTORY.

21:20:41 IT IS A LOCALITY LANDMARK STRUCTURE.

21:20:43 AND THE PARCEL THAT RECTANGLE THAT'S A CIGAR FACTORY SITS

21:20:47 ON.

21:20:47 THERE IS A SUBSEQUENT SATELLITE SITE THAT IS DESIGNATED

21:20:51 FOR PARKING AS PART OF THE OVERALL REQUIREMENTS HERE.

21:20:53 THAT IS NOT UNDER REVIEW OR WAS NOT UNDER REVIEW BY THE

21:20:57 ARC.

21:20:58 JUST THE LANDMARK BUILDING AND THE LANDMARK SITE.

21:21:01 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THANK YOU.

21:21:01 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: PLANNING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT

21:21:09 COORDINATION.

21:21:23 I'LL SHOW YOU AN AERIAL OF THE ZONING MAP OF THE SUBJECT

21:21:26 PROPERTY.

21:21:28 AGAIN, AS MR. VILA STATED AND IT'S ON PAGE 3 OF THE STAFF

21:21:34 REPORT, THIS IS A LOCAL LANDMARK, CIGAR FACTORY.

21:21:38 CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND

21:21:41 THERE'S A PORTION OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH.

21:21:49 IN THE STAFF REPORT YOU SHOULD ALL HAVE BEFORE YOU AND

21:21:54 HAVE REVIEWED, THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE SPECIFIC

21:21:57 PROPERTY WAS APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

21:22:01 THEY WERE GOING TO CONVERT THE CIGAR FACTORY TO BUSINESS

21:22:04 PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND THEN USE THIS PROPERTY

21:22:06 APPROXIMATELY A BLOCK TO THE SOUTH FOR ADDITIONAL

21:22:09 PARKING.

21:22:10 NOW THE PROJECT THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO REZONE

21:22:15 THE CIGAR FACTORY PROPERTY PROPER TO A PD AS WELL AND

21:22:19 THEN REZONE THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH FOR

21:22:24 ADDITIONAL PARKING, AND THEN THE OTHER PORTION THAT'S ON

21:22:27 THE NORTH SIDE OF GRACE WOULD BE REZONED BACK TO

21:22:32 COMMERCIAL.

21:22:34 SO THIS IS WHAT THE ZONING MAP CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE.

21:22:37 AND THEN THIS IS WHAT THE PROPOSAL WITH THE ORDINANCE

21:22:40 THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

21:22:42 SPECIFICALLY

21:22:43 AS FAR AS THE PROJECT AND THE PROPOSAL, HERE IS THE SITE

21:22:52 PLAN FOR JUST THE PD PORTION OF THE APPLICATION.

21:22:56 THE EXISTING CIGAR FACTORY IS APPROXIMATELY 26,000 SQUARE

21:23:01 FEET.

21:23:01 THEY ARE PROPOSING TO CONVERT IT INTO A HOTEL USE.

21:23:07 THE BUILDING SETBACKS ARE NORTH 5, SOUTH ZERO, EAST 10,

21:23:11 AND WEST 136 FEET, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE PROPOSED

21:23:16 BUILDING IS 50 FEET. THIS PROPERTY IS UNIQUE, NOT A

21:23:22 LOCAL LANDMARK AS RYAN STATED.

21:23:24 IT DID GO TO THE ARC FOR REVIEW OF THE REZONING REQUEST.

21:23:28 THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REZONING FOR THE

21:23:34 REASON THAT THE APPLICATION WILL KEEP THE HISTORIC

21:23:37 BUILDING INTACT.

21:23:40 THE APPLICANT RESTRICTED THE HISTORIC -- THE PROPOSED

21:23:44 PARKING.

21:23:45 ALSO THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.

21:23:47 SO THOSE STANDARDS ARE ALSO APPLICABLE TO THIS REVIEW.

21:23:54 URBAN DESIGN DID FIND IT CONSISTENT, AS TWO SMALL

21:23:59 MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND

21:24:02 READING.

21:24:03 AS FAR AS THE WAIVERS THAT ARE THEY ARE REQUESTING, THERE

21:24:06 ARE A TOTAL OF FOUR WAIVERS.

21:24:10 AGAIN, I WOULD REMIND CITY COUNCIL THAT AGAIN WE ARE

21:24:14 DEALING WITH AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, A LOCAL HISTORIC

21:24:17 LANDMARK THAT HAS TO BE REVIEWED THROUGH ARC CRITERIA AS

21:24:21 WELL AS IT'S IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY SO THOSE CRITERIA

21:24:25 ALSO CAME INTO PLAY.

21:24:26 SAYING THAT, THEY ARE ASKING FOR FOUR WAIVERS TO SECTION

21:24:30 27-284 FOR VARIOUS BUFFERING FOR PRIMARILY FOR THE

21:24:36 PARKING SPACES UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL USES, AS WELL AS

21:24:40 SOME OF THE BUFFERING BASED ON THE LOCATION OF THE

21:24:43 EXISTING BUILDING.

21:24:44 I'M ON PAGE 2, THE REDUCTION OF PARKING FROM REQUIRED 75

21:24:49 PARKING SPACES DOWN TO 62.

21:24:50 THAT'S A 13 PARKING SPACE REDUCTION WHICH IS 17%.

21:24:55 THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION DID FIND AND THIS IS BASED ON

21:25:00 THAT PARKING WAIVER.

21:25:01 THEY ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER FOR COMMERCIAL ACCESS ON THE

21:25:05 NASSAU STREET FOR THE DRIVEWAY CUTS.

21:25:08 BECAUSE THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES FURTHER TO THE WEST.

21:25:11 SO THAT'S A WAIVER THAT'S REQUIRED.

21:25:13 AND LAST WAIVER IS TO ONE OF THE WEST TAMPA DESIGN

21:25:17 CRITERIA TO ALLOW CHAIN LINK FENCING ON THE NORTH

21:25:21 PROPERTY LINE FACING A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH IS THE

21:25:25 RIGHT-OF-WAY.

21:25:26 AND OVERALL THE DEVELOPMENT -- COMPLIANCE STAFF DID FIND

21:25:30 IT INCONSISTENT AGAIN PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE PARKING

21:25:34 WAIVER REQUEST.

21:25:36 IF IT WOULD BE THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, TO APPROVE FOR

21:25:43 THE REVISION SHEET.

21:25:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. DINGFELDER?

21:25:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHERE DOES DID CHAIN LINK FENCE GO,

21:25:51 FROM WHERE TO WHERE?

21:25:52 >>MARY SAMANIEGO: APPEARS TO BE A 4-FOOT HIGH DECORATIVE

21:26:06 FENCE IN THIS LOCATION AND AS A RESULT OF THE -- THEIR

21:26:13 POLE SO IT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PROTECTIVE

21:26:15 FENCE AROUND IT.

21:26:16 HOWEVER, THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY CRITERIA SAYS YOU CANNOT

21:26:21 HAVE A CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT'S VISIBLE FROM A

21:26:23 RIGHT-OF-WAY.

21:26:24 AND ALLEYWAYS ARE RIGHTS-OF-WAY.

21:26:26 SO THERE ARE WAIVERS REQUIRED.

21:26:29 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I GUESS IT JUST CAUGHT MY ATTENTION,

21:26:30 YOU SAID CHAIN LINK.

21:26:32 BUT I GUESS I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT.

21:26:33 MAYBE THEY HAVE SOMETHING PRETTIER IN MIND.

21:26:36 THANK YOU.

21:26:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21:26:41 APPLICANT PLEASE.

21:26:41 >> GOOD EVENING.

21:26:47 BRIAN SYKES REPRESENTING CIGAR FACTORY TAMPA LLC, OWNER

21:26:51 OF THE PROPERTY.

21:26:52 ADDRESS IS 4923 WEST CYPRESS STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA

21:26:55 33607.

21:26:56 AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.

21:26:59 I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY FOR BUILDING THE

21:27:02 PROPERTY.

21:27:04 IT'S KIND OF FASCINATING.

21:27:10 FACING ME.

21:27:11 ALL RIGHT.

21:27:11 SO THE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1904, THE

21:27:15 SAMUEL DAVIS AND COMPANY CIGAR FACTORY.

21:27:19 IT OPERATED TO ABOUT 1910 UNDER SAMUEL I. DAVIS AND IN

21:27:24 1910 PLUS OR MINUS THERE WAS A FIRE, ALLEGEDLY ARSON, I

21:27:28 HAVE TO SAY ALLEGEDLY, AND SUFFERED SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE.

21:27:32 IN 2011 CAME IN AND ACQUIRED THE FACTORY AND CONTINUED

21:27:35 THE CIGAR FACTORY OPERATIONS.

21:27:37 THAT LASTED UNTIL ABOUT 1915 WHEN TAMPA CUBA, THE TAMPA

21:27:42 CUBA CIGAR FACTORY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHEN

21:27:45 THEY INSTALLED THE WATER TOWER THAT YOU NOTICE ON THE

21:27:48 STRUCTURE.

21:27:50 FROM THERE, IT OPERATED UNTIL ABOUT 1934 AS A CIGAR

21:27:53 FACTORY.

21:27:54 AND IN 1934 WITH THE REPEAL OF PROHIBITION, OSTENSIBLY

21:27:59 HAD OUR FIRST MICROBREWERY THERE. DESOTO BREWING COMPANY

21:28:04 CAME IN AND THEY WERE BREWING BEER FROM 34 TO ABOUT 36.

21:28:08 FROM 36 ON, THERE HAS BEEN A VARIETY OF USES THAT HAVE

21:28:11 NEVER SURVIVED.

21:28:12 THERE'S BEEN MERCANTILE COMPANIES THAT HAVE BEEN CLOTHING

21:28:16 COMPANIES, EVER-WEAR PRODUCTS, ROYAL, CASE GUARD.

21:28:25 IT WAS ACQUIRED BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND THEY WERE

21:28:28 LOOKING AT DEVELOPING IT AS AN OFFICE PROPERTY,

21:28:31 PROFESSIONAL OFFICES.

21:28:31 BUT IN 2016 MY CLIENT ACQUIRED IT WITH THE INTENTION OF

21:28:35 DEVELOPING A HOTEL.

21:28:37 MY CLIENT IS AN OWNER/OPERATOR OF HOTELS.

21:28:40 THEY HAVE ABOUT 30 PROPERTIES IN THE SOUTHEAST U.S.

21:28:43 THEY BUILT THEIR OWN PROPERTIES, MANAGE A LOT OF THEIR

21:28:46 OWN PROPERTIES, AND THEY SELL THIS AS KIND OF A UNIQUE

21:28:49 EXPERIENCE.

21:28:51 THE PROPERTY IS 1.77 ACRES.

21:28:54 THE PORTION THAT IS GOING TO BE DEVOTED TO THE HOTEL

21:28:57 ITSELF IS TWO SEPARATE PARCELS, AS WERE SHONE EARLIER.

21:29:03 THE MAIN CIGAR FACTORY PARCEL, AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, THE

21:29:08 PARKING PARCEL.

21:29:10 THE ORIGINAL PD ZONING FOR THE OFFICE USE HAD THE PARKING

21:29:15 A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH DOWN HERE.

21:29:17 MY CLIENT DID NOT ACQUIRE THAT PARCEL WHEN THEY ACQUIRED

21:29:20 THE CIGAR FACTORY.

21:29:22 AND ACCORDINGLY, WE HAD TO TAKE THAT PIECE OUT OF THE PD,

21:29:26 BRING THIS PIECE INTO THE PD, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HEAR

21:29:29 BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

21:29:31 WHY DO THIS?

21:29:33 NOTHING SURVIVED THERE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

21:29:36 WE ARE IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.

21:29:37 WE HAVE A HISTORIC STRUCTURE.

21:29:39 SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD BE CRAZY TO TAKE THIS PROJECT ON.

21:29:43 LOOKING AT IT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY IN THE INSIDE,

21:29:47 IT'S DEFINITELY NOT ATTRACTIVE.

21:29:50 THERE ARE -- THIS IS THE LOWER LEVEL BASEMENT AREA.

21:29:56 YOU CAN TELL IT'S VERY DILAPIDATED.

21:30:00 UPPER LEVEL WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

21:30:03 A COUPLE MORE SHOTS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE INSIDE.

21:30:11 CLEARLY IT'S GOING TO NEED A LOT OF WORK.

21:30:16 BUT AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THIS PHOTO AND THE NEXT ONE THAT

21:30:19 I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF CHARACTER TO

21:30:21 THIS PROPERTY.

21:30:29 AND THE FRONT FACADE.

21:30:31 THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.

21:30:33 AND THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITES.

21:30:39 BEAUTIFUL TILE WORK THAT STILL EXISTS OWN WHAT WAS THE

21:30:42 MAIN LEVEL OF THE CIGAR FACTORY.

21:30:47 THE PROPOSED USE IS A 70 ROOM BOUTIQUE HOTEL, WILL BE

21:30:52 SURFACE PARKING AS WAS SHOWN IN THE PRIOR SITE PLAN.

21:30:56 WE ARE REQUESTING A PARKING WAIVER WHICH I WILL GET TO IN

21:30:59 A MINUTE.

21:31:02 THIS PROPERTY WILL HAVE AN ENTRANCE OFF OF NASSAU THAT'S

21:31:04 ONE OF THE OTHER WAIVERS WE ARE REQUESTING.

21:31:08 THERE IS NO REASONABLE WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE AN ENTRANCE

21:31:11 OFF OF SOUTH HOWARD WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ON SOUTH

21:31:14 HOWARD, AND THE ACCESSIBILITY OFF OF SOUTH HOWARD.

21:31:17 THE ACTUAL ENTRANCE TO THE HOTEL WILL BE OVER HERE.

21:31:20 I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF ELEVATIONS THAT WE CAN SHOW

21:31:24 WHAT THE PROPOSED AREA WILL LOOK LIKE.

21:31:27 IT SHOWS IT A LITTLE BETTER.

21:31:32 YOU CAN SEE THERE WILL BE THE ENTRANCE.

21:31:34 THAT IS WHERE THE -- THIS IS THE STRUCTURE, WHERE THE

21:31:37 WATER TOWER WAS AT ONE POINT IN TIME.

21:31:40 THAT WILL BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE HOTEL.

21:31:42 THE LOBBY WILL ACTUALLY BE IN WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE

21:31:45 BASEMENT TO IT TODAY.

21:31:47 WE ARE HAVING TO RAISE THE CEILING A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN

21:31:51 THE FIRST AND SECOND LEVELS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT CEILING

21:31:53 HEIGHT THAT WE NEED.

21:31:55 BUT THERE WILL BE A LOBBY THERE.

21:31:56 THERE WILL BE ROOMS.

21:31:57 THERE WILL BE A LOUNGE OVER HERE.

21:31:59 OUTDOOR SEATING AREA THERE.

21:32:01 SO IT'S NICE INVITING STREETSCAPE.

21:32:06 THERE WILL BE A POOL ON THE PROPERTY.

21:32:08 AND AS MARY NOTED, THE POOL IS ACTUALLY OVER HERE.

21:32:13 THE POOL WILL HAVE A DECORATIVE FENCE AROUND IT.

21:32:17 AND THERE MAY BE A MISNOTATION ON THE SITE PLAN WHICH IS

21:32:21 WHY IT SAID CHAIN LINK FENCE.

21:32:23 BUT IT WILL BE A DECORATIVE ALUMINUM FENCE.

21:32:25 WE WANT TO TIE IN WITH THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT.

21:32:31 OBVIOUSLY A CHAIN LINK FENCE WOULD SEVERELY TAKE AWAY

21:32:33 FROM THAT.

21:32:36 THERE WILL BE TWO ADDITIONS TO THE BUILDING THAT ARE

21:32:43 STRUCTURAL ADDITIONS BUT THEY ARE NOT INCREASING IN THE

21:32:46 OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE OR FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING AND

21:32:49 THAT IS WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO EXTERIOR STAIR ACCESSES.

21:32:53 IN WORKING WITH FOLKS AT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND

21:32:57 WORKING WITH STAFF, WE HAVE ELECTED TO GO WITH A

21:33:00 STRUCTURE THAT IS INDUSTRIAL IN FEEL, KIND OF IN KEEPING

21:33:03 WITH THE INDUSTRIAL NATURE OF THE CIGAR FACTORY.

21:33:06 SO THERE WILL BE ONE THAT IS AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING,

21:33:09 AND THEN THERE WILL BE A SECOND ONE, AND YOU CAN'T QUITE

21:33:13 SEE IN THE THIS ONE BUT THERE WILL BE ONE ALONG THE

21:33:16 ALLEYWAY THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS UP BACK IN MY SITE PLAN.

21:33:23 THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

21:33:28 THERE WILL BE A LOUNGE, LIMITED SERVICE MENU.

21:33:31 IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT.

21:33:34 THERE WILL BE ON-SITE LAUNDRY FACILITIES, WORKOUT

21:33:37 FACILITIES, WHAT HAVE YOU.

21:33:39 THE PROJECT, BECAUSE IT IS A HISTORIC BUILDING, HAS TO BE

21:33:43 RESTORED AND MAINTAINED IN ITS HISTORIC DID.

21:33:48 SO WE ARE GOING TO BE REPOINTING THE BRICK, THE EXTERIOR

21:33:52 WILL LOOK AS IT DOES TODAY, BUT HOPEFULLY MUCH NICER

21:33:56 FASHION.

21:33:57 EVERYTHING WILL BE CLEANED UP.

21:33:58 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH RON'S GROUP.

21:34:01 IN FACT MY CLIENT IS EVEN WORKING ON GETTING HEAD START

21:34:04 HOPEFULLY ON GETTING THE REPOINTING OF THE BRICK GETTING

21:34:07 THE WINDOWS ORDERED AND WORKING WITH ARC ON ALL OF THAT.

21:34:12 THERE ARE TWO MAIN WAIVERS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.

21:34:15 ONE IS AS I MENTIONED, THE ACCESS OFF OF NASSAU.

21:34:20 IT'S IN THE AN ESSENTIAL WAIVER.

21:34:22 THERE'S JUST NO POSSIBLE WAY WE COULD BRING TRAFFIC IN OR

21:34:25 PEDESTRIAN OR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SAFELY OFF OF HOWARD.

21:34:29 BY BRINGING IT IN OFF OF NASSAU, WE WILL REDUCE THOSE

21:34:33 CONFLICTS AND THOSE ISSUES.

21:34:35 AND IT WILL ALLOW THE BUILDING TO FUNCTION AS A HOTEL.

21:34:38 THE SECOND WAIVER WE ARE REQUESTING IS A PARKING WAIVER

21:34:41 FROM 75 TO 62 PARKING SPACES.

21:34:46 TRANSPORTATION STAFF HAS GIVEN US TECHNICAL OBJECTION TO

21:34:50 THAT.

21:34:51 WE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS WE PRESENT, AND I WILL ACTUALLY

21:34:53 PUT THESE IN THE RECORD AS WELL.

21:34:55 WE DID HAVE GULF COAST CONSULTING WHO IS OUR

21:34:58 TRANSPORTATION PLANNER WHO DID OUR TRANSPORTATION STUDY

21:35:01 FOR US ON THIS PROJECT.

21:35:03 THEY HAD GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT ITE, AND BASED UPON

21:35:07 THE ITE MANUAL, WE WOULD REQUIRE -- I'M SORRY -- 52

21:35:15 PARKING SPACES AND WE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING 62 SO WE

21:35:18 WOULD HAVE IN EXCESS OF 10 BASED UPON ETE GENERATION

21:35:21 STANDARDS.

21:35:23 MY CLIENTS PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WING SUBMITTED A LETTER

21:35:26 WHICH I WILL SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD ALSO WHICH INDICATES

21:35:30 THAT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, BECAUSE OF UBER,

21:35:34 BECAUSE OF LYFT, THERE'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN

21:35:37 THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT PARK ON THE PROPERTIES AND THEY

21:35:40 ARE FLOWING THAT AS WELL.

21:35:42 BROUGHT SEVERAL ARTICLES THAT WE WILL SUBMIT INTO THE

21:35:45 RECORD.

21:35:45 JUST READING A COUPLE OF THINGS, THAT BACK IN 2015,

21:35:51 CITIES HAVE BEGUN RELAXING ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND SET

21:35:54 MINIMUM PARKING ALLOTMENTS, THERE'S MORE SIGNS DAN AND

21:35:58 PLANNERS ARE EVEN THINKING DIFFERENTLY ABOUT PARKING.

21:36:01 EVERYTHING POINTS TO THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON WITH RIDE

21:36:05 SHARE, THERE ARE LESS AND LESS PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR OWN

21:36:09 VEHICLES AND PARKING THEIR OWN VEHICLES TODAY.

21:36:11 AND QUITE HONESTLY AT THIS HOTEL THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE

21:36:15 THAN LIKELY A SPECIALTY BUSINESS TRAVELER, SOMEONE WHO IS

21:36:18 COMING IN, PROBABLY FLYING INTO TAMPA INTERNATIONAL,

21:36:22 CATCHING UBER, CATCHING LYFT, DOING THE SAME THING WHEN

21:36:27 THEY GO DOWNTOWN IN WESTSHORE DISTRICT.

21:36:31 BOTH WAIVERS, ALL OF THE WAIVERS WE ARE REQUESTING, WE

21:36:33 BELIEVE ARE JUSTIFIED DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS

21:36:35 HISTORIC PROPERTY.

21:36:36 WE ARE CONSTRAINED.

21:36:38 WE CAN'T CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING.

21:36:42 IT'S A DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTY.

21:36:46 WE HAVE NO WAY TO REALLY DO ANYTHING FURTHER WITH THE

21:36:49 PARKING.

21:36:50 WE HAVE DONE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

21:36:51 WE KEPT IT WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE PROPERTY.

21:36:54 WE HAVE TRADE TO STAY AWAY FROM GOING FURTHER AND DEEPER

21:36:57 INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING OUT ONTO

21:37:00 HOWARD.

21:37:02 WE REASONABLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MET OUR BURDEN OF

21:37:05 PROOF WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUESTED WAIVERS.

21:37:07 OTHER THAN THE PARKING WAIVER, STAFF FOUND THE REST OF

21:37:11 THE REQUEST CONSISTENT, AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO.

21:37:18 >>LUIS VIERA: ANY QUESTIONS?

21:37:19 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

21:37:20 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: IT'S GETTING LATE, BUT MR. SYKES, CAN

21:37:23 YOU CLARIFY THE STAFF MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A CHAIN

21:37:27 LINK FENCE.

21:37:28 ALL I SEE IS A 4-FOOT DECORATIVE FENCE.

21:37:32 >> IT IS A 4-FOOT DECK RAH T TIFF FENCE AROUND THE POOL,

21:37:35 YES, SIR.

21:37:35 >> WROUGHT IRON?

21:37:38 MORE THAN LIKELY THE ALUMINUM THAT LOOKS -- I KNOW THAT

21:37:43 STAFF IS GOING TO BE IN CLOSING --

21:37:45 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO CHAIN LINK ASSOCIATED?

21:37:47 >> NO, SIR.

21:37:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: AND JUST AS AN ASIDE, I KNOW I

21:37:52 SHOULDN'T PREJUDGE ANY PROJECT, MR. SHELBY.

21:37:54 I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS BUILDING ONCE OR TWICE.

21:37:56 IT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING INSIDE.

21:37:59 IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT.

21:38:00 AND THEN I HAVE TO SAY I SEE ON THE PROJECT IT'S NAMED

21:38:04 THE HOTEL SADIE, AND MY DAUGHTER IS SADIE.

21:38:08 >> WISH I COULD SAY WE PLANNED THAT.

21:38:15 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: NO IMPACT ON MY VOTE.

21:38:16 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

21:38:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT'S A VERY EXCITING

21:38:22 PROJECT.

21:38:23 I HAVE ALWAYS SAID IF I WIN THE LOTTERY I WOULD BUY A

21:38:26 CIGAR FACTORY AND MAKE IT MY MANSION BUT I AM NOT GOING

21:38:30 TO WIN THE LOTTERY.

21:38:31 BUT YOU MENTIONED REGARDING THE PARKING WAIVERS AND

21:38:33 WHATNOT, YOU KNOW, CAME UP IN THE PREVIOUS THING, IF IT

21:38:38 WASN'T FOR THE PARKING, YOU ARE CONSTRUCTED BECAUSE IT IS

21:38:42 A HISTORIC PROPERTY.

21:38:43 BACK IN THE DAY THE CIGAR WORKERS WALKED FROM WHERE THEY

21:38:46 LIVED IN THE AREA.

21:38:47 SO PARKING AND PARK LOTS, YOU SHOWED THAT PHOTOGRAPH AND

21:38:51 I THINK THERE WAS ONE CAR ON THE ROAD.

21:38:53 AND OF COURSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE AUTOMOBILE OWNERSHIP LIKE

21:38:56 THAT.

21:38:56 IT'S A SPECIALTY HOTEL FOR A SPECIALTY CLIENT, A BUSINESS

21:39:00 TRAVELER, WHATEVER IT IS.

21:39:02 THEY ARE GOING TO UBER.

21:39:04 THEY MAY RENT A CAR.

21:39:05 BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FILL UP ALL THOSE PARKING SPACES

21:39:08 BECAUSE GENERALLY NO HOTEL IT'S NOT LIKE THAT.

21:39:12 I AM GLAD TO SEE SOMEBODY INVESTING IN HISTORIC PROPERTY

21:39:14 THAT HAS SAT VACANT FOR SO LONG.

21:39:17 YOU SEE HOW DETERIORATED IT IS INSIDE.

21:39:20 IT WILL BE DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT BECAUSE BEFORE YOU FLOW

21:39:25 IT EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE MADE OF BRICK AND HEAVY I HAVE

21:39:28 MATERIALS, YOU CAN'T FIGHT MOTHER NATURE AND YOU CAN'T

21:39:31 FIGHT THE TROPICAL CLIMATES AND THE HUMIDITY AND LACK OF

21:39:34 AIR CONDITIONING AND WHATNOT.

21:39:36 SO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND THE INVESTMENT THAT'S

21:39:37 BEING MADE, IT IS A UNIQUE PRODUCT.

21:39:39 LOOK AT LE MERIDIAN DOWN THE STREET HOW THAT'S A BOUTIQUE

21:39:44 HOTEL AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOTEL.

21:39:46 AND IN YOU HAD TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THAT TODAY, LOOK

21:39:48 AT ALL THAT MARBLE, ALL OF THAT LABOR.

21:39:52 LOOK AT WHAT YOU SHOWED IN THE LOBBY, THE TILE,

21:39:54 EVERYTHING ELSE.

21:39:56 HOW COULD THAT BE PROFITABLE AND AFFORDABLE?

21:39:58 AND WHO WOULD BUILD IT?

21:39:59 WHERE DO YOU FIND THAT KIND OF SKILLED LABOR IN TODAY'S

21:40:02 WORLD?

21:40:02 SO THIS IS VERY EXCITING.

21:40:04 I AM NOT TESTIFYING.

21:40:05 I AM JUST GIVING MY OPINION.

21:40:07 THAT HISTORIC AREA IN WEST TAMPA IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE

21:40:11 COMMUNITY, AND CIGAR FACTORIES ARE THE CASTLES OF WHAT I

21:40:17 LIKE TO SAY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

21:40:20 THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS.

21:40:22 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

21:40:23 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

21:40:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I APPLAUD YOU FOR SAVING AN HISTORIC

21:40:27 BUILDING BUT I JUST HAVE TO ASK, YOU ARE NOT PLANNING ON

21:40:30 PAINTING THIS BUILDING, ARE YOU?

21:40:32 >> NO, SIR.

21:40:34 ALTHOUGH I WILL ADMIT, AS I TOLD MR. VILA AND THE STAFF I

21:40:38 THINK AT OUR FIRST MEETING, WHEN I FIRST SAT DOWN WITH MY

21:40:41 CLIENT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT AND HE SAID SO

21:40:43 WE CAN GO AHEAD AND STUCCO THIS STEREO, RIGHT?

21:40:46 AND I SAID, NO.

21:40:47 NO.

21:40:47 IT'S GOING TO BE REPOINTED.

21:40:49 WE HAVE HAD A LENGTHY DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO

21:40:53 ABOUT RESTORATION OF THE BRICK, ABOUT MAINTAINING SOME OF

21:40:57 THE AREAS THAT WERE PAINTED THAT PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE

21:41:00 BEEN PAINTED BUT YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO AND JUST

21:41:03 KEEPING THAT CHARACTER AND FEEL OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF

21:41:05 THE BUILDING.

21:41:06 SO BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO.

21:41:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE JUST MADE MOST OF WEST TAMPA

21:41:11 HAPPY.

21:41:12 THANK YOU.

21:41:12 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

21:41:14 OKAY.

21:41:15 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

21:41:19 ANYONE HEAR TO PUBLICLY COMMENT ON THIS ITEM?

21:41:23 MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

21:41:25 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

21:41:26 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:41:27 ANY OPPOSED?

21:41:29 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IT'S YOUR TURN.

21:41:33 >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NUMBER REZ 19-97.

21:41:36 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING

21:41:38 CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE

21:41:40 GENERAL VICINITY OF 1104, 1106 AND 1202 NORTH HOWARD

21:41:45 AVENUE, 2306, 2321 AND 2323 WEST NASSAU STREET AND 2311

21:41:54 AND 2315 WEST GRACE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA

21:41:57 AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING

21:42:00 DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, Z 507-63,

21:42:08 AND CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT

21:42:12 HOTEL AND CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

21:42:14 DATE.

21:42:14 >> SECOND.

21:42:17 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

21:42:19 A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

21:42:21 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:42:22 ANY OPPOSED?

21:42:25 ANY IN FAVOR?

21:42:26 I'M KIDDING.

21:42:26 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH.

21:42:29 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ABSTAINING.

21:42:30 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 6,

21:42:33 2020 AT 9:30 A.M.

21:42:37 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

21:42:38 MOTIONS, COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER?

21:42:41 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES, SIR.

21:42:41 A COUPLE OF ITEMS.

21:42:43 I'M LOOKING FOR A STAFF REPORT FROM TRANSPORTATION NEXT

21:42:47 THURSDAY, AND I USUALLY GIVE THEM MORE TIME.

21:42:49 BUT IN THIS CASE THERE'S SOME URGENCY.

21:42:52 AS RELATED -- I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM A CONSTITUENT ON THE

21:42:59 SOUTH DESOTO IN HYDE PARK AND SAID THE CITY IS TAKING

21:43:05 DOWN LAUREL OAKS UP AND DOWN THE STREET AS PART OF OUR

21:43:08 REPAVING EFFORT.

21:43:10 AND THEY ARE OLD OAK TREES.

21:43:14 SO I'LL ASK TRANSPORTATION STAFF TO COME NEXT THURSDAY

21:43:20 AND GIVE US A REPORT ON THAT.

21:43:23 I HAVE ALSO REPORTED THIS TO THE MAYOR AND CHIEF OF STAFF

21:43:27 ALREADY TO TRY AND PUT A STOP TO IT.

21:43:32 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.

21:43:33 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

21:43:33 AND COUNCILMAN CITRO WANTED TO ASK.

21:43:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] YES.

21:43:39 ALSO ASK WHEN THEY ARE HAVING THE SPEED BUMPS AND SPEED

21:43:44 LIMIT SIGNS REPLACED ON OKLAHOMA IN BETWEEN DALE MABRY

21:43:47 AND WESTSHORE.

21:43:48 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT SEPARATE?

21:43:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHILE THEY ARE HERE.

21:43:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WAS JUST THINKING IT'S KIND OF

21:43:58 DIFFERENT.

21:44:00 I THINK IT WOULD BE CLEANER.

21:44:01 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

21:44:02 WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

21:44:04 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

21:44:05 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:44:06 ANY OPPOSED?

21:44:09 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MY NEXT ONE RELATES TO AN ITEM THAT

21:44:11 CAME UP A LITTLE WHILE AGO, WHICH IS TO -- UNLESS WE HAVE

21:44:17 ALREADY DONE THIS, WHICH IS POSSIBLE, BUT ASK FOR A STAFF

21:44:21 REPORT IN PERSON TO ADDRESS THE PARKING CODE,

21:44:27 SPECIFICALLY IN URBAN AREAS NEAR DOWNTOWN.

21:44:31 WE KEEP HEARING TESTIMONY.

21:44:34 WE KEEP GETTING WAIVER REQUESTS, TALKING ABOUT UBER AND

21:44:37 THIS AND THAT.

21:44:38 AND FRANKLY IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

21:44:41 AND MAYBE OUR CODE IS OUT OF DATE.

21:44:42 >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A REPORT.

21:44:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IF I MAY, I HAVE A RECOLLECTION OF

21:44:52 IT BEING DISCUSSED AND I DON'T KNOW [OFF MICROPHONE] BUT.

21:45:02 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: DO YOU WANT TO RESEARCH IT AND I WILL

21:45:04 DEFER THIS ONE?

21:45:06 THAT'S FINE.

21:45:07 OKAY.

21:45:09 I WILL DEFER THAT ONE.

21:45:11 AND THE LAST ONE CAME UP IN REZONING 19-92 WHICH IS NOW

21:45:18 OVER, BUT SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD LIKE OUR SENIOR STAFF,

21:45:24 PERHAPS REAL ESTATE STAFF, TO INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITY

21:45:28 OF A CITY PURCHASING THE 80-FOOT CSX CORRIDOR THAT WE SAW

21:45:34 THE FLYER COME UP FOR SALE, 3.71 ACRES OF CORRIDOR.

21:45:42 AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT CORRIDOR CAN BE EXTREMELY

21:45:45 VALUABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND IS IRREPLACEABLE IN TERMS

21:45:50 OF THE FUTURE FOR GREENWAY TRAILS, MASS TRANSIT,

21:45:55 ET CETERA.

21:45:55 SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF AND MAYBE REAL ESTATE STAFF

21:46:01 TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY PARTICIPATING OR

21:46:05 PURCHASING THAT 80-FOOT CSX CORRIDOR THAT IS MADE

21:46:10 REFERENCE TO IN FILE REZ-19-92 ON THE FLYER.

21:46:15 >> SECOND.

21:46:16 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.

21:46:19 I AM GOING TO RAISE A CONCERN IN THAT THIS IS COMING BACK

21:46:25 FOR SECOND READING, AND IT'S RELATIVE TO AN OBJECTION.

21:46:33 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: YES.

21:46:35 ALL RIGHT, I'LL DEFER THIS ONE, TOO.

21:46:36 I HEAR YOUR POINT.

21:46:38 WELL TAKEN.

21:46:38 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

21:46:40 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I'LL BRING THAT ONE BACK IN A FEW

21:46:42 WEEKS OR WHATEVER.

21:46:43 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

21:46:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: OR I RECOMMEND THAT YOU KEEP THAT IN

21:46:50 YOUR MIND FOR CONSIDERATION UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THIS

21:46:52 MATTER IS FULLY RESOLVED.

21:46:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SO NOTED.

21:46:55 THANK YOU.

21:46:58 >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

21:47:03 MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE

21:47:05 ADMINISTRATION APPEAR WITH A REPORT ON THE OUTSOURCING OF

21:47:08 ANY ARCHITECTURAL RFPs OR OUTSOURCED TO PRIVATE

21:47:12 BUSINESSES WITH A REFERENCE TO COST VERSUS CITY STAFF.

21:47:17 I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS PRESENTED AT A REGULAR SESSION

21:47:20 OF CITY COUNCIL ON 2-26-20.

21:47:23 >>LUIS VIERA: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

21:47:27 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:47:28 ANY OPPOSED?

21:47:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN, SIR?

21:47:32 26.

21:47:32 THANK YOU.

21:47:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO TO BED.

21:47:38 [ LAUGHTER ]

21:47:40 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.

21:47:40 NOTHING, SIR?

21:47:42 COUNCILMAN CITRO.

21:47:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT WAS THAT DATE YOU HAD REQUESTED FOR

21:47:46 TRANSPORTATION TO BE HERE?

21:47:49 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: OUR NEXT MEETING.

21:47:51 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I JUST -- THE SUBJECT AGAIN WAS --

21:47:58 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THAT WAS THE TREE CUTTING THAT'S

21:48:00 OCCURRING ON SOUTH DESOTO.

21:48:02 AND IT'S URGENT.

21:48:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S URGENT.

21:48:05 BECAUSE THE ISSUE, AND I RAISED THIS EARLIER ON ANOTHER

21:48:09 ISSUE, I FORGET WHO THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS, THE WAY IT'S

21:48:15 EXTRAORDINARY REQUEST A ONE-WEEK MOTION THERE ARE TIMES

21:48:17 STAFF WILL NOT GET THAT MOTION IN THE ACTUAL AGENDA UNTIL

21:48:20 MONDAY OR TUESDAY.

21:48:21 SO THAT --

21:48:24 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: THEY ARE ALREADY INVESTIGATING IT.

21:48:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THAT'S FINE.

21:48:27 SO JUST BE AWARE, PLEASE.

21:48:29 AND AS LONG AS THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE, THAT WILL BE

21:48:31 FINE.

21:48:33 >>BILL CARLSON: I GOT THE SAME NOTICE AND NOTIFIED THEM

21:48:35 ALSO.

21:48:35 SO IT WILL BE GOOD TO BRING IT BACK UP.

21:48:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND THAT DATE WILL BE FINE WITH ME.

21:48:43 ALSO GIVING A TIME ESTIMATE ON WHEN THE SPEED HUMPS AND

21:48:48 SPEED LIMIT SIGNS WILL BE REPLACED ON OKLAHOMA BETWEEN

21:48:52 DALE MABRY AND MANHATTAN.

21:48:54 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: SECOND.

21:48:55 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. SECONDED BY

21:48:57 COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

21:48:58 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:48:59 ANY OPPOSED?

21:49:01 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

21:49:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST A COUPLE MORE THINGS BRIEFLY.

21:49:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME.

21:49:09 THAT'S NEXT WEEK?

21:49:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT WEEK.

21:49:13 WHILE THEY ARE HERE.

21:49:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: A SEPARATE ITEM WITH THE SAME STAFF.

21:49:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

21:49:20 TRANSPORTATION, YES.

21:49:21 I WOULD LIKE TO REMEMBER THIS SATURDAY IS THE CHILDREN'S

21:49:24 PARADE, AND WE HAVE A CAMPAIGN, BE FREE BAY.

21:49:29 SOME PEOPLE MAY BE APPEALING IN THE WATER.

21:49:33 WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU NOT DO THAT.

21:49:34 IT HURTS OUR FRAGILE ECOSYSTEM.

21:49:38 SO LET'S SAVE THE BEACH FOR PEOPLE THAT OWN THE LAND.

21:49:41 I ALSO WANT TO SEND OUT KUDOS TO SOLID WASTE, BUSY KNOW

21:49:44 THAT AFTER THE CHILDREN'S PARADE, WITHIN SIX HOURS, THEY

21:49:48 WILL HAVE BAYSHORE CLEAN AND OPERATING TO AND FROM

21:49:51 DOWNTOWN TAMPA.

21:49:52 THANK YOU, SOLID WASTE.

21:49:53 >> COMMENDATION TO ROBERTA KERT WHO IS LEAVING THE CITY

21:50:10 ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN 2020.

21:50:12 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS COMMENDATION ON FEBRUARY

21:50:15 6th, 2020.

21:50:16 >> SECOND.

21:50:17 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

21:50:19 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?

21:50:21 ANY OPPOSED?

21:50:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NUMBER 2, AT THE REQUEST OF THE

21:50:25 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION I WOULD LIKE TO

21:50:26 MAKE A MOTION TO SET A PLAN AMENDMENT ADOPTION FOR

21:50:29 HEARING THCPA 19-17 AND TA-CPA 20-20 AND PLANNED

21:50:38 AMENDMENT TRANSMITTAL FOR HEARING TA-CPA 19-18 A-G AND

21:50:46 TA-CPA-1921 FOR THE EVENING MEETING OF MARCH 26, 2020 AT

21:50:53 5:01 P.M.

21:50:56 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: COULD YOU REPEAT THAT?

21:50:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

21:50:58 [ LAUGHTER ]

21:51:00 >>CHAIRMAN: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

21:51:01 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?

21:51:04 OPPOSED?

21:51:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALSO E I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

21:51:08 TO SET A PLAN AMENDMENT HEARING FOR TA A 19-19 ON THE

21:51:13 EVENING OF MARCH 12, 2020 AT 5:30 P.M.

21:51:17 >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

21:51:18 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CITRO.

21:51:20 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:51:22 ANY OPPOSED?

21:51:23 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WON'T BE MAKING A MOTION UNTIL WE

21:51:25 KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

21:51:26 THERE'S OVER 100 CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES, CHICAGO AND

21:51:29 NEW YORK I THINK IS TWO OF THEM, THAT HAVE CAMERAS LIKE

21:51:33 WE DO IN RED LIGHTS BUT THEY GET SPEEDERS INSTEAD OF RED

21:51:37 LIGHTS.

21:51:37 PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEEDING.

21:51:39 AND IT CUTS DOWN THE POLICE OFFICERS DO SOMETHING THAT

21:51:42 THEY NEED TO DO, THAT'S INVESTIGATIVE THINGS THAT THEY

21:51:44 ARE UP TO THEIR NECK IN, AND I AM NOT MAKING A MOTION TO

21:51:47 THAT NOW.

21:51:48 I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE COMING FROM AND IN

21:51:50 THE NEXT WEEK OR SO AFTER WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS, I

21:51:52 WILL MAYBE MAKE A MOTION.

21:51:54 I AM GOING TO TALK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE

21:51:55 ADMINISTRATION ON.

21:51:56 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.

21:51:58 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING, SIR?

21:52:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.

21:52:01 SORRY TO HOLD US UP FOR A COUPLE OF EXTRA MINUTES.

21:52:04 ON JANUARY 23rd, I AM SUPPOSED TO GIVE A FOLLOW-UP TO

21:52:07 THE TAMPA SCORECARD, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT TO

21:52:11 MARCH 19th SO THAT I CAN DO ANY COORDINATION WITH

21:52:16 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

21:52:17 SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE MY UPDATE UP

21:52:21 FROM JANUARY 23rd TO MARCH 19.

21:52:24 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

21:52:26 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.

21:52:27 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:52:29 OPPOSED?

21:52:31 >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND ONE A LITTLE BIGGER.

21:52:32 YOU ALL REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD THE BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE

21:52:34 EDC, SORRY TO HIT YOU ALL WITH THIS AT NIGHT, BUT ONE OF

21:52:38 THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THE INTERN THAT WEIGHED

21:52:43 FIGURED OUT THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE WAY THE EDC

21:52:46 REPORTED THEIR INFORMATION.

21:52:47 THEY SAID JUST IN ONE SECTION THEY SAID THERE WERE 100

21:52:50 JOBS, $150,000 EACH, AND WHEN WE ASKED THE QUESTION

21:52:54 BECAUSE THAT LOOKED HEY, THEY SAID IT'S ACTUALLY 75,000.

21:52:59 SAID THAT WAS A 7.5 MILLION ERROR OUT OF ABOUT 90 MILLION

21:53:02 THAT THEY CLAIMED THAT YEAR.

21:53:03 WE HAVE ON MARCH 5th CAROL POST IS GOING TO BE GIVING

21:53:06 A REPORT ON THE ROI OF THE EDC BUT WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE

21:53:11 NUMBERS THAT THEY PRESENTED WERE CORRECT.

21:53:13 AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK THEM TO

21:53:16 JUST DO A REVIEW OF THEIR OWN NUMBERS AND PRESENT BACK --

21:53:20 I WILL READ THE MOTION, MAKE A MOTION THAT THE TAMPA BAY

21:53:23 EDC REVIEW ITS REPORTS TO THE CITY OVER THE PAST FIVE

21:53:26 YEARS TO FIND I AM AND CORRECT ANY ERRORS AND SUBMIT A

21:53:30 WRITTEN REPORT TO THE CITY BEFORE FEBRUARY 16th THAT

21:53:33 WILL INCLUDE THE CORRECT DATA LONG WITH A REPORT ON WHAT

21:53:37 CHANGED AND WHY.

21:53:37 >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, YOU WANT THE EDC TO DO A REPORT

21:53:42 ON THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

21:53:45 >>BILL CARLSON: TO REVIEW THEIR REPORT.

21:53:47 THEY SUBMITTED REPORTS I THINK MONTHLY TO THE CITY OVER

21:53:51 THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND THE INTERN, THE CITY COUNCIL

21:53:55 INTERN IN ONE HOUR FOUND A 7.35 MILLION ERROR.

21:53:58 SO MY CONCERN IS IF THE NEW HEAD OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT

21:54:02 IS REPORTING ON THE ROI, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHETHER

21:54:05 THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.

21:54:06 AND SO ALL I AM ASKING THE EDC TO DO IS LOOK AT THEIR OWN

21:54:10 NUMBERS AND VERIFY THAT THEY ARE CORRECT.

21:54:12 WE KNOW AT LEAST ONE OF THEM IS WRONG.

21:54:13 BUT VERIFY THEIR OWN NUMBERS, AND JUST GET BACK WITH US

21:54:17 ON WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE SO THAT MS. POST WILL HAVE

21:54:22 THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

21:54:23 >>LUIS VIERA: HAVE YOU INQUIRED WITH THEM WHAT THE

21:54:25 NUMBERS ARE?

21:54:26 I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF -- IF THIS IS A LARGE --

21:54:30 >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE NOT TALKED TO THEM.

21:54:31 BUT THEIR NUMBERS ARE NOT THAT COMPLICATED.

21:54:33 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THEIR REPORTS BUT IT'S

21:54:35 JUST A LISTING OF THE PROJECTS.

21:54:36 IT'S THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS WITH -- IT'S THE PROJECTS

21:54:39 WITH THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES TIMES THE ANTICIPATED

21:54:44 SALARIES.

21:54:46 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYTHING ELSE?

21:54:53 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: MAYBE JUST OVER TWO OR THREE YEARS.

21:54:54 I'M FAMILIAR WITH THOSE REPORTS.

21:54:56 IT SEEMS LIKE A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK OVER FIVE YEARS.

21:55:00 >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU WILL SECOND IT I WILL CHANGE IT TO

21:55:01 THREE YEARS.

21:55:03 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: I WILL SECOND IT FOR THREE YEARS.

21:55:05 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.

21:55:08 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.

21:55:09 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

21:55:10 THIS IS NOT A PUNITIVE THING.

21:55:11 I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CORRECT NUMBERS ARE.

21:55:14 AND IF THE NUMBERS ARE ALL CORRECT OTHER THAN THAT ONE,

21:55:16 CITY STAFF ALREADY VERIFIED THAT ONE WAS WRONG.

21:55:19 BUT IF THE OTHER NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, THEN FINE, AT LEAST

21:55:23 WE HAVE THE CORRECT NUMBERS THAT WE CAN USE TO LOOK AT

21:55:25 IT.

21:55:26 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ACCURACY IS IMPORTANT.

21:55:27 YOU HAVE GOT MY SECOND FOR THREE YEARS.

21:55:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I INQUIRE, MR. CHAIRMAN, HOW WILL

21:55:31 THIS MOTION BE COMMUNICATED TO EDC?

21:55:34 THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATION OR THROUGH CITY COUNCIL?

21:55:38 >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD ASSUME THROUGH COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S

21:55:40 OFFICE.

21:55:41 >>BILL CARLSON: I AM HAPPY TO PASS IT ON.

21:55:43 >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL VOTE FOR IT.

21:55:44 I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN A RABBIT MOLE HOLE WITH THE EDC,

21:55:48 NUMBER ONE.

21:55:48 NUMBER TWO, IF THEY NEED MORE TIME I WOULD EXPECT A

21:55:51 PROFESSIONAL COURTESY GIVEN TO THEM I.DON'T WANT THEM TO

21:55:54 COME IN HERE AND SAY WHERE IS THIS INFORMATION, SENATES

21:55:56 THEY RECEIVE MONEY FROM THE CITY.

21:55:57 SO I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE FOR SOME ACCOUNTABILITY IN

21:56:00 THAT REGARD.

21:56:01 BUT JUST IF THEY NEED MORE TIME THAT THEY SHOULD BE

21:56:06 AFFORDED THAT COURTESY.

21:56:08 >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY REASON I SET THAT DATE, IT'S A

21:56:10 MONTH FROM NOW BUT ALSO WE ARE ASKING TWO WEEKS LATER FOR

21:56:13 MS. POST TO COME BACK WITH HER REPORT SO WE WILL MOVE

21:56:17 THAT BACK.

21:56:19 IT'S MARCH 5th.

21:56:22 >>LUIS VIERA: SO AS A PROFESSIONAL COURTESY TO YOU, I

21:56:25 WILL DO IT AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL COURTESY

21:56:27 TO THEM.

21:56:27 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE AN

21:56:31 APPEARANCE ON THAT DATE BY THE --

21:56:34 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME.

21:56:35 IT SAYS A WRITTEN REPORT.

21:56:36 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.

21:56:38 >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION.

21:56:39 ANYONE ELSE?

21:56:41 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

21:56:43 ALL IN FAVOR?

21:56:44 ANY OPPOSED?

21:56:45 ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?

21:56:47 >>BILL CARLSON: THE LAST THING IS HALF OF US HAVE THE

21:56:50 BAYSHORE AREA AS A CITIZENS.

21:56:53 I THINK WE -- CITIZENS.

21:56:56 I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP ON BAYSHORE.

21:56:59 WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW UP, AND THERE HAVE

21:57:02 BEEN THREE PLANS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS.

21:57:04 ONE OF THEM WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, ONLY PART OF THE

21:57:08 RECOMMENDATIONS WERE IMPLEMENTED.

21:57:10 RIGHT NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MOVED INTO THE AREA AND

21:57:12 THERE'S NOT CONSENSUS ON WHAT THE PLAN SHOULD BE.

21:57:15 I IMAGINE THE CITY WILL GO THROUGH SOME LENGTHY PROCESS.

21:57:17 BUT THE PUBLIC IS ASKING US TO HAVE SOME KIND OF WORKSHOP

21:57:20 ON THAT.

21:57:20 AND SO IF YOU ALL WERE SO INCLINED I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT

21:57:24 I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION -- LET ME ASK YOU WHAT YOU

21:57:27 THINK FIRST AND THEN I CAN MAKE A MOTION.

21:57:29 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH BAYSHORE AND SPEEDING, THE KIDS

21:57:34 THAT WERE RACING, THAT WAS A HUGE ISSUE.

21:57:37 AND OF COURSE THE MOTHER AND THE CHILD DADE.

21:57:41 NOW WITH THIS OTHER INCIDENT, YOU KNOW, BAYSHORE PEOPLE

21:57:45 CALL IT A PARK.

21:57:46 IT'S THE WORLD'S LONGEST CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK.

21:57:49 BUT PEOPLE DON'T FEEL SAFE THERE.

21:57:50 EVEN THOUGH WHERE THE WATER IS AND THE SIDEWALK IS

21:57:54 FARTHER OFF THE STREET, WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE INCIDENCES

21:57:58 WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING KILLED.

21:57:59 AND IT SHOULDN'T BE LIKE THAT.

21:58:02 SHOULD IT BE TAKEN DOWN TO TWO LANES?

21:58:07 THE NORTHBOUND LANE GOING SOUTHBOUND CLOSED OFF SO IT

21:58:11 WOULD JUST BE LEFT LIKE THAT?

21:58:12 YOU KNOW, MAKE IT TWO WAY, WHICH WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY

21:58:17 CHANGE EVERYTHING.

21:58:18 EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR OPINION ON

21:58:22 GETTING TO THAT AREA IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

21:58:25 THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT MOVE THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME

21:58:27 ON A DAILY BASIS.

21:58:29 BUT I KNOW THE ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW, CHANGES SPEED

21:58:32 LIMIT, REDUCE IT BY FIVE MIAMI MILES AN HOUR.

21:58:35 WE HAVE THE CROSSING CROSSWALKS FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS OVER

21:58:37 BUT IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH.

21:58:38 IT SHOULD BE PEDESTRIAN CENTRIC, NOT CAR-CENTRIC.

21:58:42 WE ARE SO FOCUSED ON MOVING THE TRAFFIC AND WE NEED TO

21:58:45 LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND IDEAS.

21:58:46 SO I THINK A WORKSHOP WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE

21:58:49 DYING.

21:58:49 IT IS A LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION.

21:58:52 >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER.

21:58:55 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: ABOUT 14, 15 YEARS EARLIER ANOTHER

21:58:57 TRAGIC ACCIDENT, THE MOTORCYCLE THAT HIT THE PEDESTRIAN,

21:59:00 AND MAYOR IORIO COMMISSIONED THE BAYSHORE TASK FORCE.

21:59:09 VICKI POLLYEA SERVED ON IT AS WELL AS MYSELF AND

21:59:12 ANOTHER'S.

21:59:13 I LOVED IT AND IT WAS REALLY COMPREHENSIVE.

21:59:16 WE MET FOR LIKE TWO MONTHS, EVERY OTHER WEEK AND HAD LOTS

21:59:19 OF DIFFERENT STAFF AND THE PUBLIC AND ALL.

21:59:23 AND THEN WE CAME BACK WITH A REPORT, A REPORT TO THE CITY

21:59:28 AND A REPORT TO COUNCIL.

21:59:31 AND WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, SOME OF WHICH WERE IMPLEMENTED.

21:59:33 AND EVERY TIME WE DO IT, I THINK BAYSHORE GETS A LITTLE

21:59:37 BETTER, A LITTLE SAFER. I DON'T KNOW IF PART OF THE

21:59:40 MOTION MIGHT WANT TO BE -- AND MAYBE WE CAN KICK IT OFF

21:59:44 WITH A WORKSHOP BUT MAYBE INCH THE ADMINISTRATION TO GO

21:59:47 AHEAD AND COMMISSION A FULL-BLOWN TASK FORCE TO REALLY

21:59:52 TAKE A BIG LOOK AT THIS.

21:59:55 >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] I THINK THERE ARE

22:00:02 OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY AS WELL.

22:00:05 YOU TALK ABOUT COMMISSIONING A TASK FORCE.

22:00:09 AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A JOINT UNIVERSAL TASK FORCE FOR

22:00:13 THE WHOLE CITY, NOT JUST FOR BAYSHORE.

22:00:16 UNFORTUNATELY, BAD BEHAVIOR ON THE INCIDENT LAST WEEK

22:00:19 CREATED THAT PROBLEM.

22:00:20 NOT JUST SPEED.

22:00:21 BAD BEHAVIOR OF SOMEONE DRINKING AND DRIVING.

22:00:24 LET'S BE CLEAR.

22:00:25 I KNOW BAYSHORE HAS SOME ISSUES.

22:00:27 BUT SOMEONE WAS DRINKING, AND MADE A BAD ERROR IN

22:00:32 JUDGMENT AND WOUND UP KILLING SOMEONE, AND IT HURT HIS

22:00:36 FAMILY AND THE FAMILY OF THE PERSON THAT PASSED AWAY.

22:00:39 I CAN TELL YOU AS A PERSON WHO WROTE SPEEDING TICKETS,

22:00:42 CERTAIN AREAS, LASERS, BAD BEHAVIOR IS BAD BEHAVIOR.

22:00:47 AND I DON'T CARE HOW YOU TRY TO CHANGE LANES, DROPPING IT

22:00:53 TO TEN MILES AN HOUR, PEOPLE STILL HAVE BAD BEHAVIOR AND

22:00:56 SPEED.

22:00:57 BUT I CAN SUPPORT THE MOTION.

22:00:59 BUTT IF WE ARE GOING TO SAY A TASK FORCE, I CAN SUPPORT A

22:01:02 TASK FORCE BUT NOT JUST MERELY FOR BAYSHORE, BECAUSE I

22:01:05 GET CALLS ALL THE TIME ABOUT 40TH STREET, TO BUSCH

22:01:09 BOULEVARD, AND OTHER AREAS.

22:01:10 SO I THINK IF YOU WANT TO DO A TASK FORCE, WE DO IT FOR

22:01:14 THE WHOLE CITY.

22:01:16 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: BY THE WAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SURE IF

22:01:18 WE HAVEN'T DONE IT ALREADY, I WOULD LIKE US TO EXPRESS

22:01:21 OUR CONDOLENCES TO THE GAUGE FAMILY FOR THAT TRAGEDY.

22:01:31 >>LUIS VIERA: AND COUNCILMAN CITRO.

22:01:34 >>JOSEPH CITRO: [OFF MICROPHONE] COUNCILMAN, I AGREE WITH

22:01:37 YOU, PUT SOME PEOPLE BEHIND THE WHEEL OF A 3,000-POUND

22:01:41 VEHICLE WHO IS INTOXICATED NOT ONLY ON ALCOHOL BUT

22:01:44 MARIJUANA, THAT VEHICLE TURNS INTO A WEAPON.

22:01:48 AND THAT WEAPON THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY HAS KILLED MORE

22:01:52 PEOPLE THAN HANDGUNS.

22:01:53 AND PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT.

22:01:55 I LIVE ON BAYSHORE.

22:01:58 SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ON BAYSHORE.

22:02:01 I WILL GRANT THAT.

22:02:02 BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO BE

22:02:04 LOOKED AT IN ALL NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

22:02:07 YES, SIR.

22:02:07 >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?

22:02:10 SIR?

22:02:14 >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU ALL WANT TO COMBINE THOSE TWO I

22:02:15 WILL MAKE A COMBINED MOTION.

22:02:17 I DON'T KNOW A DATE THAT WE CAN TAKE IT.

22:02:19 IT'S GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST AN HOUR TO DO SOMETHING LIKE

22:02:21 THAT.

22:02:23 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HOLD A WORKSHOP

22:02:26 ON THE ISSUES AROUND BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.

22:02:31 AND THAT WE ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO FORM A TASK FORCE

22:02:36 REGARDING SPEEDING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

22:02:38 >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME SAY IF I MAY, I STRONGLY SUPPORT

22:02:43 THIS.

22:02:44 WE DO NEED TO NOT JUST TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT

22:02:47 COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS SAID BEFORE BUT ALSO ABOUT

22:02:51 RESIDENTS OF BAYSHORE HAVE A VENUE BY WHICH THEY CAN

22:02:54 EXPRESS THEIR FRUSTRATIONS AND THEIR SENTIMENTS AND THEIR

22:02:58 PROPOSALS TO ALL OF US AS THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

22:03:02 I STRONGLY DO SUPPORT THAT.

22:03:05 YOU ALL TALK ABOUT CITY OF TAMPA AND BRANDING, AND

22:03:09 BAYSHORE ALWAYS COMES ON TOP OF THE LIST.

22:03:12 COUNCILMAN GUDES POINTS TO OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY OF

22:03:14 TAMPA IS OBVIOUSLY WELL TAKEN, AND WE DID A WORKSHOP NOT

22:03:18 LONG AGO ON BUSCH BOULEVARD WHERE I HOPE WE SEE SOME REAL

22:03:21 PROGRESS IN THAT REGARD, LIKE BAYSHORE CERTAINLY IS

22:03:24 WORTHY OF OUR ATTENTION.

22:03:26 THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.

22:03:32 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE A DATE YOU THINK WE HAVE TIME TO

22:03:34 DO THIS?

22:03:35 >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME LOOK AT IT FIRST.

22:03:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE HAVE A CALENDAR?

22:03:48 WE HAVE WORKSHOPS FEBRUARY 27, MARCH 26 AND APRIL

22:03:52 23rd.

22:03:54 >>LUIS VIERA: HOW IS FEBRUARY 27th, MR. SHELBY?

22:03:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TWO STAFF REPORTS.

22:03:59 YOU HAVE A COMMENDATION.

22:04:01 AND YOU HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR WORKSHOPS.

22:04:08 >>LUIS VIERA: OH, BOY.

22:04:09 WHAT ARE THE WORKSHOPS?

22:04:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE IS TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES OF HOUSING

22:04:12 AND CONTRACTING THE CITY'S HIRING PROCESS.

22:04:15 AND IN REGARD TO PRIVATE SECTOR HOUSING PRACTICES.

22:04:19 THE SECOND ONE IS DISCUSS HUMAN TRAFFICKING WITH REGARD

22:04:21 TO THE SUPER BOWL.

22:04:23 THE THIRD ONE IS CATHERINE COYLE TO EXPLAIN THE CURRENT

22:04:27 TREE ORDINANCE WITH A REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF TREES.

22:04:30 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW IS MARCH 26th?

22:04:34 >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU OKAY WITH GOING TO MARCH,

22:04:35 COUNCILMAN CARLSON?

22:04:37 OR DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO FIT IT INTO FEBRUARY?

22:04:40 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IF WE SCHEDULE IT, THEN THE

22:04:42 LONGER WE PUT IT OUT THE MORE TIME WE GET THE PUBLIC TO

22:04:45 ORGANIZE.

22:04:47 >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, GOOD.

22:04:48 JUST MAKING SURE.

22:04:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH, ONE,

22:04:53 TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX WORKSHOPS.

22:05:03 >>BILL CARLSON: APRIL 23rd HAS NOTHING.

22:05:05 >>LUIS VIERA: APRIL 23rd FIRST IN LINE?

22:05:08 >>BILL CARLSON: WELL, SULPHUR SPRINGS.

22:05:10 >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND IN LANE.

22:05:14 >>BILL CARLSON: IT GIVES US TAME.

22:05:15 I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE AT LEAST AN HOUR FOR PUBLIC

22:05:18 INPUT ON THAT.

22:05:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I SUGGEST SULPHUR SPRINGS IS SET

22:05:23 FOR 9:00.

22:05:24 PERHAPS WE SET IT FOR 10:00 AND COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO

22:05:27 CONSIDER JUST LIMITING THE SUBJECT MATTERS THAT DAY.

22:05:33 >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.

22:05:33 WE CAN DO THAT.

22:05:34 SO ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT?

22:05:36 IN FACT, COUNCIL WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON,

22:05:40 SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

22:05:44 GIVE TO THE DINGFELDER?

22:05:45 ALL IN FAVOR?

22:05:46 ANY OPPOSED?

22:05:50 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST VERY BRIEFLY, IF I MAY.

22:05:53 WE WERE CONTACTED BY THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND A

22:05:56 MOTION.

22:05:57 THEY WANT TO HONOR OUR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE CHARLIE

22:05:59 MIRANDA.

22:06:00 YEAH.

22:06:01 AND A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES TO

22:06:04 HONOR THE WONDERFUL SERVICE OF OUR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE,

22:06:07 CHARLIE MIRANDA, AT THE REGULAR SESSION OF COUNCIL ON

22:06:10 FEBRUARY 6th.

22:06:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN VIERA

22:06:14 WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CITRO. ALL IN FAVOR?

22:06:20 >>LUIS VIERA: THEN SECONDLY A COMMENDATION FOR THE CITY

22:06:22 OF TAMPA'S WOMEN'S HISTORY COMMITTEE TO BE PRESENTED ON

22:06:25 FEBRUARY 20 AT THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

22:06:28 AND BEFORE IF I MAY, ONE THING I WAS THINKING, AND I AM

22:06:32 JUST THINKING OUT HERE, I WOULD LOVE TO INVITE ALL OF OUR

22:06:39 COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE SERVED ON CITY COUNCIL WHO ARE WOMEN

22:06:42 THAT THEY NEED TO PRESENT, COUNCILWOMAN CAPIN,

22:06:46 COUNCILWOMAN MONTELIONE, MULHERN, MILLER, ET CETERA.

22:06:50 I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

22:06:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

22:06:55 >>LUIS VIERA: SO TO INQUIRE OF MY AIDE IF SHE'S WATCHING

22:06:59 RIGHT NOW, ANYONE ELSE, LINDA SAUL-SENA AND OTHERS.

22:07:05 >>JOHN DINGFELDER: WHAT IS THE A CARD?

22:07:07 >>LUIS VIERA: THE CITY OF TAMPA'S WOMEN'S HISTORY

22:07:09 COMMITTEE.

22:07:09 JUST FLYNN WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE PRESENT THAT DAY TO

22:07:11 PRESENT IT IF THEY WISH TO COME.

22:07:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION --

22:07:17 >> SECOND.

22:07:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHAIRMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM

22:07:21 COUNCILMAN CITRO WITH GREAT SUGGESTIONS TO INVITE THE

22:07:24 OTHERS.

22:07:24 >>LUIS VIERA: AND THE REVEREND KING PARADE IS MONDAY?

22:07:31 THERE YOU GO.

22:07:32 MOTION.

22:07:37 ALL IN FAVOR?

22:07:37 ANY OPPOSED?

22:07:38 THANK YOU.

22:07:38 HAVE A GOOD ONE.

22:07:40 OH, HE DID IT AND HE DID IT.

22:07:42 >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND YOU ADJOURNED.

22:07:46 >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.

22:07:47 WE ARE ADJOURNED.

22:07:49

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